Buffalo Bills Bills Offseason: SI Cover Swag?

[Chad Thundercock]

Kinda funny that he's better than the guy they shoved him aside for. Who knew 3 years later just keeping him woulda been the best option.

I did, but I understood why they wanted to move on. Ugh, everything about that Fitz contract was so awful. I'm glad Buddy Nix is finally gone from this team.

And this team would have been slightly better keeping Fitz around. Orton was statistically a near carbon copy of what Fitz brought, albeit in a different manner. You don't want either guy starting, obviously, so it's moot.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Fitzpatrick would not have changed last season's win expectancy by one ****ing bit.

They overachieved honestly. I don't think anybody realistically saw 9 wins. Orton played okay considering that he came out of retirement in August. Its not like he came in, in football shape. Fitz would have and wasn't part retired.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

I'd like to think the Super Bowl is the expectation every year for players.

Obviously its why you play but I don't think its something you talk about publicly especially when your team hasn't been in contention.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Your starting QB for the 2015 Buffalo Bills!

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

They overachieved honestly. I don't think anybody realistically saw 9 wins. Orton played okay considering that he came out of retirement in August. Its not like he came in, in football shape. Fitz would have and wasn't part retired.

Fitz had a career season last year. His thanks was being kicked to the ****ing curb. Dude sucks.

 

[Dubi Doo]

They overachieved honestly. I don't think anybody realistically saw 9 wins. Orton played okay considering that he came out of retirement in August. Its not like he came in, in football shape. Fitz would have and wasn't part retired.

I don't think they overachieved last year. I remember ESPN saying Buffalo had the best chance from going worst to first last off-season. Most fans had them pegged anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7.

 

[Chad Thundercock]

Bills did overachieve last year. The Pats win doesn't count. They won the majority of close games, including two with ridiculous odds against them which required Minnesota and Detroit badly screwing up. They had very good luck with injuries.

Objectively, it was the usual 6-8 win Bills team last year that had some things go their way. That's NFL life with poor QB play.

I'm predicting 7-9 next year with a below average, extremely safe offense and a defense that should remain strong despite my better analytical judgment. If the defense gets the injury bug unlike last year, then it's a disaster.

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

Oh cool, so the Chiefs, Texans, Raiders and Dolphins losses don't represent that exact same thing in the other direction.

 

[Chad Thundercock]

Chiefs loss was the only one I'd say the Bills blew

Raider and Dolphin games weren't even close

Texan game they were just horrible and only stayed within 1 possession with the crazy lucky Williams long TD

 

[dma0034]

Chiefs loss was the only one I'd say the Bills blew

Raider and Dolphin games weren't even close

Texan game they were just horrible and only stayed within 1 possession with the crazy lucky Williams long TD

EJ doesn't throw that pick 6 and the Bills win easily.

I'd say the Bills could of easily won the Chiefs-Texans games

I'd also say they could of lost the Vikings-Lions games

Fair is fair.

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

So was Fitzpatrick. Watt going 90 yards swung that game.

Oakland was a one possession game before the 3rd and 20, what are you even talking about?

Miami is the only one even arguable as "not close" and that had its fare share of swings.

 

[cramdizzl]

So was Fitzpatrick. Watt going 90 yards swung that game.

Oakland was a one possession game before the 3rd and 20, what are you even talking about?

Miami is the only one even arguable as "not close" and that had its fare share of swings.

Doesn't fit the narrative. A team is as good as its record, that's it.

Even after the first winning season in a decade, someone claims that "objectively", they only deserved 6-8 wins. lol. This team could get to 12 wins this year and some would still say that 9 wins was a fluke.

 

[SoFFacet]

Doesn't fit the narrative. A team is as good as its record, that's it.

Even after the first winning season in a decade, someone claims that "objectively", they only deserved 6-8 wins. lol. This team could get to 12 wins this year and some would still say that 9 wins was a fluke.

# wins is just a probabilistic outcome on a distribution determined by how well we and our opponents play. Where w ends up in relation to E[w] is a valid topic of analysis. Whether it is more or less.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

# wins is just a probabilistic outcome on a distribution determined by how well we and our opponents play. Where w ends up in relation to E[w] is a valid topic of analysis. Whether it is more or less.

no ones arguing that, they're arguing that OMG THIS 1 PLAY FLKUE WE SHUD HAVE LOOST! which is stupid and pointless

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Gee, those guys on this week's SI cover sure look familiar... (here's the cover story, BTW.)

(Also, inb4 OHCRAPCOVERCURSE)

 

[SundherDome]

Gee, those guys on this week's SI cover sure look familiar... (here's the cover story, BTW.)

(Also, inb4 OHCRAPCOVERCURSE)

That was a great rwad . Thanks for sharing

 

[Chad Thundercock]

Down 2 possessions the majority of the game is not close

no ones arguing that, they're arguing that OMG THIS 1 PLAY FLKUE WE SHUD HAVE LOOST! which is stupid and pointless

Cool, let's just look at the stats and ignore when defenders trip and run into each other allowing huge TD plays. Yay, we're all Mike Schopp. WE'RE SO SMART!

 

[Chad Thundercock]

Doesn't fit the narrative. A team is as good as its record, that's it.

Even after the first winning season in a decade, someone claims that "objectively", they only deserved 6-8 wins. lol. This team could get to 12 wins this year and some would still say that 9 wins was a fluke.

Yes, objectively. They won a game they very likely would have lost against a team that did not try. A team that actually tanked.

And what does their possible record this year have to do with last year. Mock me for using objectively again, homer.

 

[misterchainsaw]

# wins is just a probabilistic outcome on a distribution determined by how well we and our opponents play. Where w ends up in relation to E[w] is a valid topic of analysis. Whether it is more or less.

And, using at least one metric (DVOA), the Bills were the 10th best team in football on a play by play basis, despite an awful offense (26th, I believe). With an expected wins total of exactly 9.0.

Yes, objectively. They won a game they very likely would have lost against a team that did not try. A team that actually tanked.

I guarentee the players on the field in that game were trying. To suggest otherwise is asinine.

Should we put an asterisk by KC's and Miami's win over them early in the season because Gronk wasn't Gronk yet? You play them when they are on the schedule. The Bills won the game.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

4-14: EJ MANUEL WITH JOHN MURPHY ON WGR (12:56)

4-14: BILLS' OL COACH AARON KROMER WITH JOHN MURPHY ON WGR (13:05)

 

[26CornerBlitz]

delete

 

[jBuds]

Gotta love the plane story and giving him the "don't let Mario Williams leave the building" treatment

 

[26CornerBlitz]

4-15: AARON KROMER TALKS BILLS' OL ON WGR (10:58)

 

[struckbyaparkedcar]

Down 2 possessions the majority of the game is not close


Cool, let's just look at the stats and ignore when defenders trip and run into each other allowing huge TD plays. Yay, we're all Mike Schopp. WE'RE SO SMART! Dumbass.

Are you drunk? Are fourth quarters suddenly the majority of games? Are you just talking about the Raiders game, where Oakland still needed to convert a third and 20 to not give the Bills the chance at a game winning drive? Do DVOA numbers totally contradict your contrarian ********* about the Bills being worse than their record?

 

[cramdizzl]

Yes, objectively. They won a game they very likely would have lost against a team that did not try. A team that actually tanked.

And what does their possible record this year have to do with last year. Mock me for using objectively again, homer.

Well sorry, you can't just erase wins. Marking them down for a loss had NE tried doesn't work. They beat the hottest team in the NFC two weeks prior. Objectively, in reality, they won 9 football games, or 8 with a game in hand if that's how you wanna look it at. Subjectively, in your mind, they were a 6-8 win team. Calling you out on BS doesn't make me a homer, its just the reasonable thing to do, and clearly I'm not alone.