That's a player for player move. Subban was better first 2 years, Weber better last 2. Considering age and term of contract remaining don't think it's safe to call it a win until it's all said and done.
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That's a player for player move. Subban was better first 2 years, Weber better last 2. Considering age and term of contract remaining don't think it's safe to call it a win until it's all said and done.
On the topic of the Weber subban trade , it is known that the salary cap recapture fees for NASHVILLE are astronomical. If Montreal were to trade Weber back to Nashville , could Nashville buy out the last four years of his contract ? He is scheduled to make 3m,1m,1m,1m in the last four years . A buyout would mean 2/3 so 4 million spread out over 8 years . 500,000 for 8 years.
The alternative for Nashville is far far worse . My question is than would Nashville be allowed to buy him out . And what would they give up to Montreal for saving their ass ? And Montreal could just resign Weber than for another year or two if I’m not mistaken.
You should go back and check the stats for the first year of that move . Specifically check goals assists points plus minus hits blocked shots Leadership
Montreal’s lack of scoring did them in there . Not Weber’s play . Wouldn’t claim year one that easily
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Nobody who has a cap circumventing contract has played those $1M years and Weber won't either. Only way he plays is if the Habs are contenders for his age 38 season and Webers is still effective.
Weber has 3 years left really (Age 35-37). High degree of probability
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The amount of redirects off a player and in our net was annoying too. That was unlucky but yeah... Habs lack shooters and goal scoring threats. Too many pass happy players who don't shoot in scoring areas cause they don't have confidence in their shot. It's a team flaw
Some good points........but the results are awful. The 24th place team, with arguably one of the best goalies in the league. Hard to deny he has had very little success in his position. Everyone knows, if he was english he would have been fired by now. He has been given so much rope, he could land on the floor of the grand canyon with it.
Accountability has not existed in Montreal now, for the past 4-5 years. Sad, what has happened for the fans of the team. The promise of something great, and moving goalposts year after year, has worn on me.
It's his 9th offseason..............at some point this donkey has to get us some scoring...with size. You seem to have way more patience than he deserves.
That’s to bad champ . Seems like his position is pretty secure to me so I’m happy . I respect your not a fan of him but I think he’s much better than 20-25 other gms out there . He has 10 million to play with this off season to land /upgrade scoring on the wings . With added scoring Montreal is on even footing with every team in the east outside of Tampa .
Habsfan for 50+ years.............and it's never about individual players, never. Bergevin is the biggest joke of a GM we have ever had. Houle was not this bad......Way beyond time to move on from this clown.
We are gonna have to agree to disagree. I hope you are right, 9 years later, and he gets us some scoring, and they have a good season upcoming, whenever that may be, but I am done with this clown....tired of waiting for him to take the training wheels off.
Fire him now, and move forward, his leaving would be addition by subtraction.
Well I beg to differ and your avoiding the subban question. You do realize he had to go don’t you ?
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Bob Gainey wanted to trade Price, Pacioretty and Subban for Lecavalier back in 2009 after he had signed an 11 year contract.
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this is such a bad take, if you dont recognize the good Bergy has done the last 3-4 years you're a lost cause and a trash habs fan
Even though it’s been me and blong7 debating this I do know where he’s coming from . We’re older and we’re not used to going so long without a cup . Could be worse , we could be like the leafs in the middle of a hundred year rebuild . I agree with you he’s been doing some good work lately but I feel his pain to .
moving forward I really like the future core of Suzuki Kotkaniemi caufield romanov norlinder primeau etc ... should we be building on that foundation all in or should we be adding a couple big scorers to today’s lineup ?
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It's only the 9th year of his 30 years plan, calm down guys, we are in good hands.
Building a 24th place team with one of the best goalies in the league, is not a great 3-4 years!!
Thanks for your humour!!
The guy is in so far over his head, the results are in............
Lol if any fan base knows good teams it’s Montreal. I hope you’re not a Jets fan who got their team taken away haha!
You literally just mentioned players we traded for...
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Well the Habs are probably willing to use that 1st on Laine, but I don't know what else they'd have to give up. Seems like Chevy would want a 2c, and that's Danault, with the right to negotiate with his agent. That's a guy we know he was high on, before he left the Blackhawks, and Bergy replaced him. One of the RD Brook, Juulsen or Fleury. Beyond that there's probably more. Chevy is a pretty shrewd negotiator. Bergevin is in the weaker position because he has some cornerstone players that won't be at a high level for too much longer, not to mention a slough of free agent forwards on his plate.
I get the sense that if Laine ever got traded to Montreal he wouldn't be into Fortnite anymore. He'd probably start to be more like Sergei Kostitsyn after a few trips down Ste. Catherines.
I get the sense that if Laine ever got traded to Montreal he wouldn't be into Fortnite anymore. He'd probably start to be more like Sergei Kostitsyn after a few trips down Ste. Catherines.
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Been reported the ask is Suzuki and thats where the discussion stopped. Apparently Jets GM wants Suzuki+++ for Laine. So whoever has a Suzuki type Center that they are willing to trade then they will have a chance at Laine. Thing is no GM is biting because the asking price of Suzuki+++ is just too rich for every GM in the league. So either the Jets keep him which is fine and rightfully so I would be asking for the moon too if I was trading him or Chevy lowers his asking price.
