Proposal: Barrie for Kapanen+++

[Makar Goes Fast]

Kapanen is better defensively than Barrie....we don't need another Gardiner.

by that logic barrie is better offensively, we don't need another Rene Bourque

 

[Liferleafer]

by that logic barrie is better offensively, we don't need another Rene Bourque

Fair enough...no deal.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Kapanen is better defensively than Barrie....we don't need another Gardiner.

I mean, even if the first part is true(It's not but whatever)....

Gardiner has hit 50 points just a single time in his career, and 40+ just twice, he's barely pacing for 40 again this year and has all of 2 goals...


Barrie is twice the offensive Dman Gardiner is, they're not comparable players at all.

 

[Liferleafer]

I mean, even if the first part is true(It's not but whatever)....

Gardiner has hit 50 points just a single time in his career, and 40+ just twice, he's barely pacing for 40 again this year and has all of 2 goals...


Barrie is twice the offensive Dman Gardiner is, they're not comparable players at all.

And if an offensive Dman is what the Leafs needed, that would be great....but offensive Dman is 1 position lower on our list of needs than genital warts.

 

[Jared Dunn]

No way.

Dubas wouldn't trade Kapanen for Pesce, what makes you think he'd add to Kapanen to get Barrie?

Stop saying this it's so disingenuous. Kap is an awesome player but we all know if that was an available 1 for 1 he'd be in Carolina.

 

[Znith]

I wouldn't do this simply because of years of control.

Leafs won't be able to sign Barrie long term because of salary structure. He will be a UFA in a year and a half commanding $7m.

Kapanen has like 4-5 years of team control and no arbitration rights.

So its basically 1.5 years of Barrie for 4-5 years of Kapanen. Pass.

 

[ole ole]

Would just like to point out that the OP hasn't returned to the thread after creating this gem....

SO.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Doesn't seem to be the kind of D TOR needs.

 

[A1LeafNation]

No lol.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Stop saying this it's so disingenuous. Kap is an awesome player but we all know if that was an available 1 for 1 he'd be in Carolina.

What are you talking about? It's been widely reported that Kapanen and Johnsson were non-starters from the Leafs end.

 

[Fogelhund]

Do the Leafs really need another puck mover with Reilly and Gardiner?

I still think a Hjarmalsson or Tanev would be better targets and much more affordable

Tanev is broken AGAIN!!

 

[34]

You aren't kidding....

His last trade proposal;

Nylander + Sandin + Timashov + 1st round pick for Barrie + Kerfoot

Hands down the worst Leafs trade proposal threads. Hands down.

Wtf? I would not trade Nylander alone for Barrie.

 

[ole ole]

What are you talking about? It's been widely reported that Kapanen and Johnsson were non-starters from the Leafs end.

No. It's been widely reported that Kapanen + or Johnsson + were non-starters from the Leafs end. Big difference.

 

[AvsFan29]

Sounds good! Do you have Dubas' number?

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

No. It's been widely reported that Kapanen + or Johnsson + were non-starters from the Leafs end. Big difference.

Not really. Leafs wouldn't trade even if they added to kap or Johnson. At the end of the leafs wouldn't move them for pesce. One for one or if the leafs added. They wouldn't do it.

In terms of semantics it matters but not at the end of the day.

It's not nearly as big of a deal your making. And certainly not a "big" deal.

 

[Grimmas]

Ignoring that the value doesn't work out, the money doesn't work out either.

 

[glucker]

Seems like a lot, but considering the players involved for Muzzin, the value might be close except the AVs would have to absorb cap dumps.

Wut.

None of the pieces given up for Muzzin are remotely close to Kapanen’s value.

Grundstrom was likely behind Bracco as well.

Do the Leafs really need another puck mover with Reilly and Gardiner?

I still think a Hjarmalsson or Tanev would be better targets and much more affordable

I think Hjalmarsson makes the Leafs cup favourites, I really do. I’d drop Lil, a first, + in a heartbeat for him.

 

[glucker]

I'd say the Avs pass. Kapanen a late 1st and a bunch of nothing shouldn't get you Barrie.

I was scrolling up from the bottom of the page, saw this post. Thought the person must not understand the value of the players, and then saw your name and realized the person just doesn’t care about the value of the players, only that they’re Leafs.

 

[glucker]

Jesus. Looks like we found the newest shiny toy in Leafs land. I gladly settle for Nylander over Kapanen if he is so important to you guys....
Or is he not available either?

Amazing how many forwards the Leafs have that are easily worth more than a 50-60 point defenseman....

It’s funny on this site. Can’t call Matthews a 70 point player, but nobody bats an eye at calling Barrie a 60 point player.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

It’s funny on this site. Can’t call Matthews a 70 point player, but nobody bats an eye at calling Barrie a 60 point player.

he literally called him a 50-60 point defenceman. exactly what he is.

 

[Tall Morty]

Obviously there are a few problems with the OP, but I just want to say, no f***in way should we be trading a 1st a year+ in advance.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Stop saying this it's so disingenuous. Kap is an awesome player but we all know if that was an available 1 for 1 he'd be in Carolina.

We don't all know that.

 

[glucker]

he literally called him a 50-60 point defenceman. exactly what he is.

To quote hfboards “but he’s never hit 60 points”

 

[glucker]

Wtf? I would not trade Nylander alone for Barrie.

I also wouldn’t trade Sandin, Timashov and a 1st for Barrie.

 

[Spilot23]

I also wouldn’t trade Sandin, Timashov and a 1st for Barrie.

Based on needs we wouldn't too. It's still early I know but the way Graves has been playing lately that would be a lateral move to trade Barrie for a LHD as center piece that we don't need that much. Target someone like Nuge or something remotely good for our 2nd line other than that not interested I will gladly keep Barrie.