GDT: Avs vs Flames | 8PM MT | Emergency GDT

[Bowe Byrum]

I'm still a little hesitant about trading Newhook. I feel like we could bridge out a deal that'll take him straight to UFA status at a good price while our window still open. It really all depends how he develops though. To me he looks way better than last year, but I'm definitely on the fence about it.

I don't think he would be traded. Him and Bo are the young legs we need

I think if they make a big move it will be before Friday.

Boone Jenner

 

[Bowe Byrum]

What's the record with out Makar this year? Like 8-1 or something? Let's move him for the 2C we got Bo anyway.

Petterson

 

[RockLobster]

People are moving the goal posts now on discussions about Newhooks skating. OK. LOL.

No, there have been negarive comments specifically about his speed/explosiveness.

Pointing out facts, meant to dispel the notion that he’s in the elite tier of skaters isn’t being negative.

Not one person who’s gone in depth on it has said he’s a terrible skater. Just that he went from being surrounded by lesser skaters (which made him stand out), to the NHL. Where he’s now merely a fine/good skater.

In fact one of the individuals who went on such a deep dive (henchy) even said that they like Newhook, but they see him as a Top 6 wing rather than a C.

There’s no goalpost shifting here. Just people who are clinging to a hope that he’s going to be our 2C answer and he’s really not.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Pointing out facts, meant to dispel the notion that he’s in the elite tier of skaters isn’t being negative.

Not one person who’s gone in depth on it has said he’s a terrible skater. Just that he went from being surrounded by lesser skaters (which made him stand out), to the NHL. Where he’s now merely a fine/good skater.

In fact one of the individuals who went on such a deep dive (henchy) even said that they like Newhook, but they see him as a Top 6 wing rather than a C.

There’s no goalpost shifting here. Just people who are clinging to a hope that he’s going to be our 2C answer and he’s really not.

This entire post is one big straw man. I said there were negative comments specifically about his speed and explosiveness. Your rebuttal is about something else.

 

[Pokecheque]

I don't understand why people question Newhook's skating, he's very fast and shifty

He’s only fast when he gets to start in his own end where he has a chance to build a full head of steam, his acceleration is really not good at all and I’m not really sure what you’re talking about with his “shiftiness.”

 

[RockLobster]

This entire post is one big straw man. I said there were negative comments specifically about his speed and explosiveness. Your rebuttal is about something else.

It’s not, but that’s okay.

 

[John Mandalorian]

He’s only fast when he gets to start in his own end where he has a chance to build a full head of steam, his acceleration is really not good at all and I’m not really sure what you’re talking about with his “shiftiness.”

Case in point. Ha ha.

 

[Pokecheque]

BTW Girard was absolutely phenomenal defensively last night.

Also have to give credit where credit is due, the PK looked about as good as I’ve ever seen it this season. Was actually aggressive and they got sticks in passing lanes, usually my two biggest complaints.

Case in point. Ha ha.

Whatever, I’m not getting into this.

 

[Freudian]

Newhook shows flashes of doing things at NHL speed with the puck. He might be a 20 goal scorer this season and if he is we can trade him to St Louis for a haul.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Girard’s resurgence has been nice to see. Finally back to skating well again. Not only does it help the Avs for the stretch run, but it improves his value for the off-season. Or, it allows you to look at moving Toews instead. Depending on how the playoffs go for those two.

I think Manson should be the guy on the 3rd pair when Makar comes back. Slot him next to Englund, or Hunt.

 

[Dr Amazing204]

Good win Avs good stuff Kadri is still cool on the the next game.

 

[ANewHope]

I’ve always thought Newhook’s skating was great. It’s hockey IQ that makes him appear slower because he’ll be a step or two out of position or behind the play. Just like some poor skaters play a lot faster because of how they think the game.

When Newhook knows what he’s doing with the puck he can fly. Pretty shifty as well.

Still think he makes the most sense to trade because of his fit/next contract/value.

 

[Miri]

Loved how Malgin channeled his inner Malkin. He is on which line again? 4th?

Man. f*** Dallas and Vegas.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

People are moving the goal posts now on discussions about Newhooks skating. OK. LOL.

No, there have been negarive comments specifically about his speed/explosiveness.

Newhook suffers from not being a strong top 6 forward right now when the Avs could really need it. Some posters knock him for that.

He also benefits from being better than Jost in so many ways so gets extra credit for that from some posters.

 

[teoberto]

Girard’s resurgence has been nice to see. Finally back to skating well again. Not only does it help the Avs for the stretch run, but it improves his value for the off-season. Or, it allows you to look at moving Toews instead. Depending on how the playoffs go for those two.

I think Manson should be the guy on the 3rd pair when Makar comes back. Slot him next to Englund, or Hunt.

Absolutely not. Manson is the only top-4 D that can actually use the body. Girard otherwise….

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Absolutely not. Manson is the only top-4 D that can actually use the body. Girard otherwise….

You ever heard of Cale Makar, Devon Toews, or Bowen Byram?

 

[teoberto]

You ever heard of Cale Makar, Devon Toews, or Bowen Byram?

I said body, not transition. Among those three, Cale uses it sometimes in open ice but not when defending the slot. Same for the other two, even if less frequently. Manson has characteristics quite different from the other D we have.

 

[Pokecheque]

Absolutely not. Manson is the only top-4 D that can actually use the body. Girard otherwise….

Someday we’re all going to admit that Manson is not a top-four defenseman. Until then…

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I said body, not transition. Among those three, Cale uses it sometimes in open ice but not when defending the slot. Same for the other two, even if less frequently. Manson has characteristics quite different from the other D we have.

All those guys use their body to defend on the boards and the slot. You can’t win a championship if only one of your defenceman does that.

Manson has value. I think you’re definitely overstating his importance though. Or you’re undervaluing the defensive play of the other three. All three are significantly better defensively than Manson and use the body when it’s necessary.

 

[nammerus]

Someday we’re all going to admit that Manson is not a top-four defenseman. Until then…

CMac at his finest.

 

[the_fan]

Whether you believe Manson is a top 4 D or not, all I know and care about is that the Avs won the cup with him playing on top 4. IMO he’s a fine #4

 

[henchman21]

George needs more love for his play of late.

 

[dahrougem2]

George needs more love for his play of late.

Boy am I happy the Oilers balked at the Rangers asking price two summers ago. He was obviously going to be a risk but he is clearly a starting caliber goaltender and instead we have him while the Oilers have the corpse of Jack Campbell lol

 

[henchman21]

Boy am I happy the Oilers balked at the Rangers asking price two summers ago. He was obviously going to be a risk but he is clearly a starting caliber goaltender and instead we have him while the Oilers have the corpse of Jack Campbell lol

Talent has always been there.. mental has been the question. I’m still skeptical with his prolonged stretches of poor play, but as a first year starter, he’s been good and showed the proper signs. With the Avs need more goaltending than previous years, this is a good sign to help overcome the impact on the depth.

 

[Bonzai12]

Is it horrible that I do not know a single one of these “post-rock” bands? Hell, I didn’t even know we were in post-rock age. When did this happen?