Rumor: AVS Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics)

[agentblack]

Does anyone feel with the issue with management and making deals to re-sign it's own players maybe undesirable? I just can't fathom why every player on this team has to fight to get a contract. Yet other teams seem to really have no issues.

Its really only been Barrie and ROR. EJ, Landy, Dutchy, Varly all signed no problem. Hell Duchene took a bridge deal once. And i get the feeling Grigs, and Zads can and will be extended no problem

 

[tigervixxxen]

Does anyone feel with the issue with management and making deals to re-sign it's own players maybe undesirable? I just can't fathom why every player on this team has to fight to get a contract. Yet other teams seem to really have no issues.

I wouldn't even say it's difficult. It's about time, if they have it then they intend to use it. They take an eternity to do everything. They don't need anyone signed until camp so they don't have to do it now. If they can get a better deal by waiting then that's what they'll do.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I'm not sure I can handle losing O'Reilly and Landeskog in one year.

 

[Avs44]

It does not look like we'll be getting a re-signing today from the Avs, so I shall start burning candles that the Oilers sign Demers tomorrow. If they do that, we won't have to worry about Barrie to Edmonton.

 

[agentblack]

Ill cast some spells and we should have Barrie and Mack signed to 5.5 x5 deals each.

 

[Drij]

Should be the other way around. They'll never replace what Landy brings to this team physically, and defensively while still being very good offensively.

Losing ROR and Landy's two way games in the top 6 is not a recipe for long term success.

huh Landeskog has been physical since his first season. He isn't great offensively or defensively. I'd say he's above average.

 

[UncleRisto]

Ehh...

 

[tigervixxxen]

Dater is usually good on these FA things

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

Don't want Weise

 

[Sea Eagles]

Ill cast some spells and we should have Barrie and Mack signed to 5.5 x5 deals each.

Fair deal for Mackinnon
Way too much for Barrie

I'd go:
4.85 for 6 years for Mackinnon
3.75 for 5 years for Barrie

 

[henchman21]

I like Dale Weise... depends a lot on the contract though. On a ~2m contract I'd be happy with him as a 3rd liner. Huge improvement on Marty being there with Soda and Comeau.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

The Weisel. I'd prefer Skille since he'd probably cost a lot less

 

[Sea Eagles]

Ehh...

We already have Martinsen / Rantanen / Grigorenko. No thanks. Good SAR buy if it's two way.

 

[UncleRisto]

We already have Martinsen / Rantanen / Grigorenko. No thanks. Good SAR buy if it's two way.

I'm not over the moon but that's selling him a fair bit short though.

 

[henchman21]

We already have Martinsen / Rantanen / Grigorenko. No thanks. Good SAR buy if it's two way.

Rants and Grigo are likely in the top 6... Marty should be an extra or 4th liner at best. Weise can add something to the 3rd or 4th lines.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

We already have Martinsen / Rantanen / Grigorenko. No thanks. Good SAR buy if it's two way.

What a weird selection of players to list lol.

 

[tucker3434]

Ehh...

We could do worse for depth. Just got to keep the price low.

 

[AslanRH]

I would take Weise over Skille everyday.

I'm actually debating Matthias (3yr @2.5m) vs McGinn (3yr @3.5m) with a fellow fan over text. I think I'd have to lean McGinn although I like Matthias more as a 2way player

 

[Foppa]

Dale Weise is a solid enough 4th line grinder (3rd if you stretch it I guess) so if we pay him like one ($1.5 million salary) and PLAY him like one...that is fine.

However...he has high "overpayment" potential tomorrow because he brings all those intangibles coaches and GM's love. That's really a great addition to your makeup when you are a really good hockey player. When you luck into about 10 goals in the first couple months of a season and people get conned into thinking you are more than your role...that's when the trouble starts. Let us remember how useless he was offenisvely (0 goals, 2 assists in 19 games) when he got to Chicago, not a couple of hot months to start the season in Montreal.

I fear some team is going to get priced out of a good hybrid 2nd/3rd liner like Brouwer and dump too much cash on Weise hoping he will get lucky again. I have this horrible nightmare that Roy would stick Comeau and Weise with Matty is his wingmen and then we all complain about his lack of production.

 

[henchman21]

McGinn at 3.5m is probably a bit much, but I'd absolutely love to have him back. I'd pay it.

Dale Weise is a solid enough 4th line grinder (3rd if you stretch it I guess) so if we pay him like one ($1.5 million salary) and PLAY him like one...that is fine.

However...he has high "overpayment" potential tomorrow because he brings all those intangibles coaches and GM's love. That's really a great addition to your makeup when you are a really good hockey player. When you luck into about 10 goals in the first couple months of a season and people get conned into thinking you are more than your role...that's when the trouble starts. Let us remember how useless he was offenisvely (0 goals, 2 assists in 19 games) when he got to Chicago, not a couple of hot months to start the season in Montreal.

I fear some team is going to get priced out of a good hybrid 2nd/3rd liner like Brouwer and dump too much cash on Weise hoping he will get lucky again.

Weise was hot for a season and a half for Montreal. His 14-15 season was pretty solid. In Chicago, he got buried in depth and wasn't terribly liked by Q.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I would take Weise over Skille everyday.

I'm actually debating Matthias (3yr @2.5m) vs McGinn (3yr @3.5m) with a fellow fan over text. I think I'd have to lean McGinn although I like Matthias more as a 2way player

I prefer Matthias due to McGinn and his back issues.

Plus if we're looking at Weise why not just bring back Matthias

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

If we traded Mitchell and brought in Weise for cheap to play on the 4th line with Compher/McLeod then sure. I just don't want to pay him what I think he'll get

 

[Frenchy]

Ehh...

Don't want Weise

I dont either , He had a great start with Montreal last season but it went downhill after that . Because of last's year he will request a lot more that what he's really worth and will end up being an overpaid depth player . That kind of contract will hurt a team's salary cap structure .

 

[Sea Eagles]

What a weird selection of players to list lol.

Players that can play on the right wing? How is that weird? Add Iginla in as well. lol

 

[UncleRisto]

Dale Weise is a solid enough 4th line grinder (3rd if you stretch it I guess) so if we pay him like one ($1.5 million salary) and PLAY him like one...that is fine.

However...he has high "overpayment" potential tomorrow because he brings all those intangibles coaches and GM's love. That's really a great addition to your makeup when you are a really good hockey player. When you luck into about 10 goals in the first couple months of a season and people get conned into thinking you are more than your role...that's when the trouble starts. Let us remember how useless he was offenisvely (0 goals, 2 assists in 19 games) when he got to Chicago, not a couple of hot months to start the season in Montreal.

I fear some team is going to get priced out of a good hybrid 2nd/3rd liner like Brouwer and dump too much cash on Weise hoping he will get lucky again. I have this horrible nightmare that Roy would stick Comeau and Weise with Matty is his wingmen and then we all complain about his lack of production.

Well I mean he scored ten the previous year and 6 before that but I get what you're saying and he definitely has that 2.5M Brandon Prust type thing going.