Cousin Eddie
You Serious Clark?
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Trade Duchene, 10th, and Stuart for Subban.
Then trade Barrie + 2nd 2017 for Nuge + 3rd 2017
I'm so on board with this Scenerio.
Trade Duchene, 10th, and Stuart for Subban.
Then trade Barrie + 2nd 2017 for Nuge + 3rd 2017
Trade Duchene, 10th, and Stuart for Subban.
Then trade Barrie + 2nd 2017 for Nuge + 3rd 2017
Oh man, something might actually be happening.
Bergevin just pushed back the press conference he was supposed to have shortly.
Oh man, something might actually be happening.
Bergevin just pushed back the press conference he was supposed to have shortly.
Trade Duchene, 10th, and Stuart for Subban.
Then trade Barrie + 2nd 2017 for Nuge + 3rd 2017
Sounds like a pretty lateral move.
I dont think theres a lot separating a lot of the Dmen after the first 4 or 5.
Doughty, Karlsson, OEL, Hedman, and Keith are far and away my Top 5. A sizable gap after those guys.
Then, for me at least I have Suter, Vlasic, McDonagh, Letang, Burns, ahead of him, although its close between these guys and they can flip flop a decent amount over the course of a season.
So right now Subban is #11 for me. But with guys like Faulk, Lindholm, Brodie, Ekblad, and Klingberg all very quickly on the rise, I'm not sure how long he'd stay at that spot for me. Although he'll probably pass Suter, Keith, and Burns pretty soon at least.
I just find his style to be way to reckless, especially in his own zone. He can bring some solid offense but you never know what to expect on Defense. I want my #1D to be very consistent and reliable in his own zone. Karlsson and OEL may not be elite Defensively but you at least have a very good idea of what to expect game in and game out with them. I dont feel the same way about Subban at all when it comes to Defensive play.
Now MB has pushed back the press conference to 6:15 eastern....HAS to be serious trade talks with someone.
Exactly, I feel like he floats without the puck way too much, and has almost no idea what to do with himself when he does not have it. He disappears for long stretches when I watch him, and then pops up making a stupid ill advised pinch that puts his team on their heels.
You can basically hit repeat, and that's what you'll see most of the night until he pulls off some miracle point shot and rushing play once or twice a night. There is way too much hype around him IMO.
With all this said, I'm not one who on completely on this bandwagon of offensive defenders are the most important thing since the invention of the wheel, so **** it if they can't give you solid defense.
I do not believe Erik Karlsson is the best defender in the NHL, and there is a ******** amount of people who believe that IMO.
Subban, for his faults, is a huge upgrade over Barrie and is a legit top 2 dman. Duchene is better than Nuge, but unlike Barrie v Subban, Nuge imo still has potential to catch up to Duchene. Plus it is easier to make up ground up front than on D.
Dreger just speculated about what a deal between Colorado/Montreal would look like. He says it would have to include Duchene or Landeskog plus something, plus something else.
My big fear is the cost is Duchene and Barrie. From Montreal's perspective, why do they want picks? Montreal only has a window as long as Price is around. The 4th overall, 10th overall...Dubois or Keller / Brown / Sergachev, whoever, will take years to develop, by which time Pacioretty and Price will be past their primes. Picks just make no sense here.
Subban for EJ+#10+?
Subban for EJ+#10+?
I'd much rather go after someone like Mcdonagh or Faulk considering the price. Don't like the idea of having Subban as our no.1 at all.
i'd only take doughty and karlsson over him. some others are are arguably better now but wouldn't take them over subban as he's much younger than those guys and/or better contract situation, more upside left etc.
hedman could be one of those guys but he's UFA in a year and will probably get similar contract. i think subban has potential to play at higher level and imo only doughty and maybe keith has played at higher level than subban from 13-15 in playoffs. save the rangers series in '14 where he was gassed.
I'd much rather go after someone like Mcdonagh or Faulk considering the price. Don't like the idea of having Subban as our no.1 at all.