Rumor: AVS Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) ‎ ‎

[22FUTON9]

I'd much rather go after someone like Mcdonagh or Faulk considering the price. Don't like the idea of having Subban as our no.1 at all.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I dont like the idea of acquiring Subban at all, dislike him as a player so much...



But, since it actually seems like maybe a bit more then just a little rumor, Ill bite on the idea.



Can it be done with moving Duchene? Barrie + #10 + Zadorov/Bigras?



Or if it has to involve Duchene then what else? Duchene + #Zadorov?



I dont like the idea at all, I think Subban is grossly overrated. Theres a reason he was left off of Team Canada.

I'm with this guy. Go for Trouba before Subban. Can't pay 9M+ for a primarily offensive defenseman. Especially since we will probably be giving up our #1C. Yuck.

 

[Avs_19]

I'd much rather go after someone like Mcdonagh or Faulk considering the price. Don't like the idea of having Subban as our no.1 at all.

How come? I think he'd be our best player and the best defenseman we've had in years.

 

[The Pwnerer]

Think the price would be Duchene plus Barrie for Subban +. Not sure how I'd feel about that but having Johnson and Subban anchoring 2 d pairings sounds pretty awesome.

 

[hughdreamz]

I'm with this guy. Go for Trouba before Subban. Can't pay 9M+ for a primarily offensive defenseman. Especially since we will probably be giving up our #1C. Yuck.

HOLY ****! I didn't realize how ridiculous Subban's contract is. Yeah let's go Trouba or Faulk.

 

[Avs71]

How come? I think he'd be our best player and the best defenseman we've had in years.

Agreed. He would instantly change the dynamic of the team, and give the team a punch from the back end they haven't had since Blake.

Even PK's biggest detractors have to admit he is a top 10 defensemen in the league. I'd argue he is top 5. He is the level of defensemen you need to win a cup, especially coming out of the west.

Beauchemin would be a great partner for him. Imagine having Subban or Johnson on the ice for 50 minutes of the game.

 

[22FUTON9]

How come? I think he'd be our best player and the best defenseman we've had in years.

I just don't think he's good enough defensively. If we had a real solid and smart no.2 guy then I could probably live with it but we don't have that. and like I said the I'm probably not gonna like the price and the salary.

 

[henchman21]

Even PK's biggest detractors have to admit he is a top 10 defensemen in the league. I'd argue he is top 5. He is the level of defensemen you need to win a cup, especially coming out of the west.

 

[UncleRisto]

Swing for the fences!

 

[InjuredChoker]

Even PK's biggest detractors have to admit he is a top 10 defensemen in the league. I'd argue he is top 5. He is the level of defensemen you need to win a cup, especially coming out of the west.

i'd only take doughty and karlsson over him. some others are are arguably better now but wouldn't take them over subban as he's much younger than those guys and/or better contract situation, more upside left etc.

hedman could be one of those guys but he's UFA in a year and will probably get similar contract. i think subban has potential to play at higher level and imo only doughty and maybe keith has played at higher level than subban from 13-15 in playoffs. save the rangers series in '14 where he was gassed.

 

[CalderKing21]

AJ Haefele ‏@AJHaefele 11m11 minutes ago
Colorado and Montreal have talked Subban parameters since February-ish. This is not a new conversation. Colorado wants PK.

I don't give a **** what it takes. Get him Avs!

 

[member 116861]

Step 1 - Trade for Subban
Step 2 - Sign Stamkos
Step 3 - Stanley Cup?

 

[henchman21]

i'd only take doughty and karlsson over him. some others are are arguably better now but wouldn't take them over subban as he's much younger than those guys.

OEL competes with Subban for me, but yeah... those two and maybe OEL. Maybe Hedman.

 

[ArWKo]

Yeah I'm not sure how anyone can't think PK isn't easily a top 10 dman in the league, let alone think he's overrated. You can make an argument over his contract and that's one thing, but if you can't see how valuable he is as a dman...

 

[InjuredChoker]

Step 1 - Trade for Subban
Step 2 - Sign Stamkos
Step 3 - Stanley Cup?

well stamkos and subban are very good buddies..

 

[UncleRisto]

Step 1 - Trade for Subban
Step 2 - Sign Stamkos
Step 3 - Stanley Cup?

Oh can you imagine the Leafs fans' envy? It's all their moves.

 

[InjuredChoker]

ferraro said on TSN radio that there's about 50% chance he's traded.

 

[henchman21]

well stamkos and subban are very good buddies..

And we'd need a center.

That is it! Trade Barrie + Duchene for Subban +, then sign Stamkos!

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Subban is not in my Top 10. He's #12 on my list.


And if you take contracts into it as a factor, he falls out of my Top 15.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

PK is in my 3-6 range.

To me it's:

Karlsson

Doughty
A tier that includes Subban/Hedman/OEL/Keith

 

[Balthazar]

Subban is not in my Top 10. He's #12 on my list.


And if you take contracts into it as a factor, he falls out of my Top 15.

Subban is a top 5 "game changer" dman. When he's on the ice stuff happen. All the time. I don't like him that much because I dislike the Habs but he's a real superstar and plays like one. He'd be our best player by a fair margin.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I guess we'll probably know more on if PK is even available when Bergevin talks to the media shortly.

 

[CobraAcesS]

PK is in my 3-6 range.

To me it's:

Karlsson

Doughty
A tier that includes Subban/Hedman/OEL/Keith

Meh, depends on how high a value you put on offensive defenders. I don't see Subban as a two-way guy even to the level of Keith, and I still view Keith as leaning more to an offensive guy.

Two way guys are OEL/Doughty/Hedman types IMO. Subban & Karlsson are your analytical barbie dolls though.

I've never watched a game Subban played in and came away extremely impressed personally. Hes top 10 IMO, not top 5 for me. No way in hell do I give up Duchene & Barrie, maybe Duchene & 10 for Subban and a 2nd or something though.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I dont think theres a lot separating a lot of the Dmen after the first 4 or 5.


Doughty, Karlsson, OEL, Hedman, and Keith are far and away my Top 5. A sizable gap after those guys.



Then, for me at least I have Suter, Vlasic, McDonagh, Letang, Burns, ahead of him, although its close between these guys and they can flip flop a decent amount over the course of a season.


So right now Subban is #11 for me. But with guys like Faulk, Lindholm, Brodie, Ekblad, and Klingberg all very quickly on the rise, I'm not sure how long he'd stay at that spot for me. Although he'll probably pass Suter, Keith, and Burns pretty soon at least.



I just find his style to be way to reckless, especially in his own zone. He can bring some solid offense but you never know what to expect on Defense. I want my #1D to be very consistent and reliable in his own zone. Karlsson and OEL may not be elite Defensively but you at least have a very good idea of what to expect game in and game out with them. I dont feel the same way about Subban at all when it comes to Defensive play.

 

[Drury_Sakic]

Trade Duchene, 10th, and Stuart for Subban.

Then trade Barrie + 2nd 2017 for Nuge + 3rd 2017