Same person who told me the general consensus here was that we needed more depth players, and not upgrades to force our depth players into actual depth roles. Good luck with that one.
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Same person who told me the general consensus here was that we needed more depth players, and not upgrades to force our depth players into actual depth roles. Good luck with that one.
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Why trade 2nd and 3rd round picks if you're only intending on renting a player for 1 year? Surely Sakic knew before acquiring him what Burakovsky wants in terms of AAV and term...
He is not worth in the 3M$ and that's where his QO is. Also, I'm not sure he's going to be any good with our team, I want him signed short term so he can prove himself, then if he's good, give him more term. I'll be mad if we give him term at decent money before he proves his worth.
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Fair points.
Just to play devil's advocate... Keeping in mind that the $3.25m QO is only relevant if he'd sign a 1 year contract, do you think he'd be worth it if he instead signs for something below $3m for around 3-4 years?
I don't know if I'd give him2M$ for 3 years, so I guess my answer is probably no. That's mainly because I don't believe in the player though. Some people would give him 3 x 3 without hesitating.
Yeah there is zero reason to give him term. Let him sign his QO. It's already more than he deserves, and then walk if he does not prove himself. If he proves us all wrong great.
That's why I said "arguably." He's definitely more talented than Wilson, but whether he has the wherewithal to actually apply it on the ice has been the huge question.
And let's be clear, while Wilson's injury history was probably the biggest issue with keeping him aboard, it was by no means the only one. Wilson shined in the postseason but he was an eternally frustrating guy to watch. There were the endless pratfalls, the missed defensive assignments, the countless whiffed scoring chances, etc. He's also on the wrong side of 30. So they get a more talented winger with more upside, but I'm not a fan of the fact they paid a much higher price to get him and unlike Wilson isn't already signed.
Bura's fancy stats from year to year are all over the damned place, so I've no idea what Parnass and his team had to say about the guy.
Side note, he will be the first #65 for the Avalanche in their history. The last player to don that number for the franchise was Tim Hunter back when they were still the Nords.
You’re the one acting like this will be the last move all offseason.
But you’re right, you’re the one being rational.
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Nope, never said that, either.
But please, continue making stuff up. Seems to be the norm for you.
I mean, if you want to argue that depth scoring =/= depth you’re right, you’re not going to get very far with me.
Splitting hairs about where to add depth, when pretty much everything below the top line should be fair game to be upgraded upon, just to pat yourself on the back really accomplishes a lot though.
If Bura is locked into the top 6 with Jost and Kerfoot to start the year then we can talk.
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If that happens, then this has the potential to be Brad Stuart all over again. Don't extend players you don't need to extend right away before you've seen how they fit on the team.
100%. It HAS to happen that way. At least the Caps qualified him at that price and McLelland said that his preference was to keep him but that he asked to be moved. To me, those are good signs but we'll see how it works out. If we're able to add at least Zuccarello on that 2nd line, then I like this acquisition more. If not and we're stating the season with #9296 and then a mix of Bura - Jost - Kerfoot & Compher on the 2nd line, then I don't think it's going to end well and we'll have paid that price for 1 year of Burakowsky.
Agree completely with the sentiment of what you're saying here but Colin Wilson is 29.
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For what it’s worth, I’m one of the people defending this move. But here, I agree with you. Term should be 2 years at most. Three years is too long for something like this.
Fair enough, but he'll be 30 right around the start of the season in October.
If he wants two years I would be offering like 2.5M not 3.5M though. If he wants to prove himself I don't see why he wouldn't just sign the QO though.
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Do you foresee us maxing our on cap space? If no, why not give him that carrot? My feeling would be to incentivize him on the idea that this is a trial.
But then again, I’m not sure what Joe has planned.
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That's exactly the number I was thinking if he wanted two years, I think that would be the accurate price range but still if you're the Avs... let him sign his QO and see how it goes. We signed Colborne to a 2 year contract and couldn't wait to get that guy off the roster. There's just no need to give him any term.
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