He's not signed. Pretty sure teams never invite unsigned players to training camp.
Batherson invited to training camp, Formenton not. Again, the team shows they clearly know 1 guy was involved, the other guy.
Again, the team shows they clearly know 1 guy has a contract, the other guy not.*
Unsigned players aren't covered if they get injured, Tkachuk didn't attend training camp when he was unsigned and holding out, it's the same thing. Whether or not he is invited to training camp or not isn't really indicative of anything, one way or the other, at this point.Batherson invited to training camp, Formenton not. Again, the team shows they clearly know 1 guy was involved, the other guy not.
No need for shell games.And why do you think the team didn't offer him a contract? He has no leverage, would have signed any 1 year offer.
Nothing changed between today and yesterday. Enjoy reading your tea leavesHC and no contract aren't separate issues, they go together as 1 thing caused the other.
The team did offer him a contract, they qualified him two months after the HC scandal broke, thus retaining his rights. if they wanted nothing to do with him, they could have let him walk. He chose not to accept the QO, presumably because he thinks he can get a better deal than 1 year ~800k.And why do you think the team didn't offer him a contract? He has no leverage, would have signed any 1 year offer.
Welll let’s not play TOO stupid here lol. Sure he doesn’t have a contract. There’s also been next to zero news on contract front. The signs are pointing in a particular direction.Unsigned players aren't covered if they get injured, Tkachuk didn't attend training camp when he was unsigned and holding out, it's the same thing. Whether or not he is invited to training camp or not isn't really indicative of anything, one way or the other, at this point.
No one is disputing this. Goes without saying.Welll let’s not play TOO stupid here lol. Sure he doesn’t have a contract. There’s also been next to zero news on contract front. The signs are pointing in a particular direction.
We can certainly speculate that the scandal is influencing things, but the idea that he would have signed any 1 yr deal is obviously not true since he didn't sign his QO. It's also obviously not true that him not being on the Training camp roster is an indication of anything other than him not being signed.Welll let’s not play TOO stupid here lol. Sure he doesn’t have a contract. There’s also been next to zero news on contract front. The signs are pointing in a particular direction.
OkWe can certainly speculate that the scandal is influencing things, but the idea that he would have signed any 1 yr deal is obviously not true since he didn't sign his QO. It's also obviously not true that him not being on the Training camp roster is an indication of anything other than him not being signed.
It's not like Formenton is the only player in history to ever hold out on signing, there are other possible explanations, you're free to come to whatever conclusions you like, but we've learned nothing new regarding Formenton's status as the result of the training camp invites.
What? Every qualifying offer is just the last salary plus 10%. That’s just the regular QO to retain the player’s rights. Then they negotiate.So, the only contract the team offered him was 1 they knew he wouldn't accept. They clearly didn't want him around.
Mm I believe it is being disputed. But some people hate to speculate and that’s fair.No one is disputing this. Goes without saying.
That’s the contract , all teams offer their RFA’s until they sign, they have to ,to maintain rights.So, the only contract the team offered him was 1 they knew he wouldn't accept. They clearly didn't want him around.
Well actually, in this case, people are disputing that a specific thing is a sign. There are signs the that point to Formenton being in hot water, him not being on the training camp roster when he doesn't have a contract is more like a sign that says there's a Tim Horton's 10 km down the road. Given his contract status, we already knew he wouldn't be on the roster. No new information here.Mm I believe it is being disputed. But some people hate to speculate and that’s fair.
Animal cruelty police notified.I just told my dog that Forms wasn't going to attend training camp and he told me :
"bro you are waking me up for this? Tell me something I don't already know"
He was not a happy camper to say the least
Havlat did, though to be fair he was only a third liner because Hossa and Alfredsson were blocking his path to the top 6.How often do 3rd liners hold out after training camp starts?