What the f*ck Ortiz?
Manfred....Goodell...and hockey fans legit think Bettman is the worst commissioner in sports
Now it's come out that Fiers first spoke up TWO YEARS AGO. And MLB was informed.
This isn't going away no matter how much Houston wishes it would.
it's been pretty well known for a while now that the A's went to MLB in 2018 about the asstros cheating and the league did nothing about it
to all the clowns who say fiers is a snitch and that he "should've said something while on the asstros," you really think a guy will come out and reveal his team cheats and risk losing his job?
reveal the asstros cheating operation, get released, and then have to deal with a lawsuit? OR don't risk losing your job by not saying anythingLosing his job? That would've been the easiest lawsuit to win by getting the MLB to settle for millions. There was also plenty of time from when he left Houston to when he actually went public. He sat on the info, so I'm not going to act like he's perfect in all this. He shouldn't get treated like he has, and he's not a snitch, but he could've come out earlier.
reveal the asstros cheating operation, get released, and then have to deal with a lawsuit? OR don't risk losing your job by not saying anything
hmmmm...i don't think that's a hard decision to make for anyone
that's another thing. why risk it?You are also under the assumption that he would get blackballed by all the other teams, and what's the excuse for not going public after he left Houston?
Yet one of these two has been shot in a fishy situation.
Ortiz outta clean up his life before worrying about how Fiers handles his.
What he did was still way more good than bad, my point is just that it wasn't the best possible decision that could've been made. He eventually made the correct decision and should get credit for that. The people like Ortiz and all the others do have a point with how he benefitted from it. There was known speculation from other teams when it was happening, but without proof, it was just all speculation. If Fiers or someone else blew the whistle earlier, who knows how the situation would've played out. It seems clear to me that MLB knew something like this was going on and they decided to try and cover it up and not make it public. The public knowing is what forced their hand.that's another thing. why risk it?
who knows? but does that matter now after all we've come to find out? he did go public. and he could've done it anonymously but nope, he chose to put his name on it too
fiers benefited from it? lolwutWhat he did was still way more good than bad, my point is just that it wasn't the best possible decision that could've been made. He eventually made the correct decision and should get credit for that. The people like Ortiz and all the others do have a point with how he benefitted from it. There was known speculation from other teams when it was happening, but without proof, it was just all speculation. If Fiers or someone else blew the whistle earlier, who knows how the situation would've played out. It seems clear to me that MLB knew something like this was going on and they decided to try and cover it up and not make it public. The public knowing is what forced their hand.
Oh gee, I don't know, maybe that diamond encrusted ring or that bonus check he received.fiers benefited from it? lolwut
how has be benefited from it? he's been getting a bunch of death threats from angry asstros fans. i wouldn't call that benefiting
What he did was still way more good than bad, my point is just that it wasn't the best possible decision that could've been made.
Yeah, Fiers is one of the few that come away from this situation with any level of positive moral standing. Don't disagree with any of that. Getting to the right decision in the end is important because not many get there and actually do it.Fair enough, but it's a decision that is still light years ahead of any other Astro on the ethics scale, all of whom either said nothing about it, or in some cases openly denied it or even played victim.
Sure, it would have been nice if ANY of them had blown the whistle while on the team, that would have been amazingly brave to do in the heat of a playoff race. But I'm not going to take any shots at the ONE guy who actually blew the whistle when the rest of them were perfectly happy to reap all the rewards in silence; he had to know it would taint his own ring. He could have kept his mouth shut just like the rest of them.
He wasn't the only 2017 Astro to end up on another team, did any of the others speak u up after they left? Do you think for one second guys like Correa, Altuve, Bregman, or Springer would have EVER admitted anything, even years from now on another team or after they retired, if they hadn't been caught?
So sure, some can call Fiers a snitch, and they wouldn't be entirely wrong. But the rest of them (even the ones who knew but didn't directly participate) are something far far worse.
Now it's come out that Fiers first spoke up TWO YEARS AGO. And MLB was informed.
This isn't going away no matter how much Houston wishes it would.
It's a prime example of why whistleblowers have to go public. All those internal reporting systems are always BS. It's just alerting whatever organization it is to cover this specific thing up to make sure it doesn't go public.New Red Sox catcher Jonathan Lucroy gives unique take on Astros' sign-stealing
Just gets worse every single day.
Yep. I'm certain Manfred knew about it and told them to stop it. Unfortunately for him they didn't.It's a prime example of why whistleblowers have to go public. All those internal reporting systems are always BS. It's just alerting whatever organization it is to cover this specific thing up to make sure it doesn't go public.
you think a ring and money compare to a guy and his family getting death threats? sure he won a title with them but that doesn't mean **** now. that ring is tainted anywaysOh gee, I don't know, maybe that diamond encrusted ring or that bonus check he received.