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  1. Dave Sparky Allison

    Dave Sparky Allison 2-22-1

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    Boo hoo, you’re breakin’ my heart.
     
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    Do Make Say Think & Yet & Yet

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    Huge win with Kuznetsov going down.

    Both games have been exciting, been a while since we had an exciting final.
     
  3. Dave Sparky Allison

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    For games 3 and 4 yes.
     
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    It's been so long I don't remember. Was it filled?
     
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    aragorn YES WE CAN

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    Good bounce back game by Wash, Wilson again with another good game.
     
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    That's just leafs fans.
     
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    tom wilson is so awesome. Makes me wanna draft Tkatchuk at 4.
     
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    He would need a coach that lets his line forecheck.
     
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    You were literally just *****ing about Vegas winning ^ up there. Come on Sparky we talked about this. Never gonna see eye to eye.
     
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    Some people are so soft, calling for suspensions for Wilson, McNabb and Reeves for every game plays.

    Would have loved to see these guys watching playoffs prior to the 05' lockout.

    Patheic
     
  11. dzingelalltheway

    dzingelalltheway Let's win it all -MR

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    I don't see the link? I've been watching hockey since I was old enough to understand what a puck was. The standards for a dirty hit have changed – rightfully – in the years since. Wilson's hit on Marchessault MIGHT have been okay pre-lockout. But it sure as hell shouldn't be now. DoPS blew it.
     
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    Nothing wring with it, 2 minute interference at worst
     
  13. dzingelalltheway

    dzingelalltheway Let's win it all -MR

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    Lack of injury doesn't preclude the fact that the puck was nowhere near, Marchessault was blindsided, Wilson had every opportunity to avoid the hit and instead kept coming full bore. I know this video is slowed down somewhat, but if you can look at this and honestly tell me it's a clean hit, we have a fundamental disagreement on what constitutes clean vs. dirty and I hope we never play hockey against each other for my own safety's sake.

     
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    Nothing wrong with it, hit is 1 second after he passes with his head down. He wasn't suspended for a reason; Marchessault puts himself in that position. They aren't going to suspend everyone who hits someone who cuts through the middle with their head down. Wilson has been suspended these playoffs already, DOPS isn't afraid to use the ban-hammer.
     
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  15. dzingelalltheway

    dzingelalltheway Let's win it all -MR

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    Safe to assume you also don't agree that this should have been a suspension?


    This is what's frustrating to me. The consistency is non-existent. If you're going to give Rome four games for this, Wilson has to get something.
     
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    I mean, jumping into his head is quite a large bit different than a shoulder on shoulder hit without jumping. Hitting a guy a second after admiring his pass isn't always equal, especially when you are jumping your shoulder into his head...If Wilson jumped, and targeted Marchessaults head, then sure I'd agree. That was just finishing a check in the playoffs. His hit, where he jumped and targeted Astin-Reese's head, was suspension worthy, and he was suspended for it.

    Directly from the DOPS: " shoulder to shoulder and within the flow of the game"
     
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    Yeah. That hit is not even close to the same hit that we saw a couple nights ago and is definitely suspension worthy.
     
  18. dzingelalltheway

    dzingelalltheway Let's win it all -MR

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    There are common elements. Defenseless player, blindsided, long after the puck is gone, player made no attempt to avoid the hit. The point of contact may be different but I'd argue the intent is the same.
     
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    The point of contact being different and the injury sustained are huge factors though, you can't ignore that.
     
  20. dzingelalltheway

    dzingelalltheway Let's win it all -MR

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    I'm not ignoring them. I'm certainly not calling for a four-game suspension for Wilson. I'm just saying that if we're ignoring intent then the player safety department is fundamentally broken. We shouldn't be waiting for players to get injured to crack down on predatory hits.
     
  21. Dave Sparky Allison

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    When did I do that? I have no problem with Vegas winning the cup.
     
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    That was horrible, dirty and completely unnecessary. I have to agree with the inconsistency.
     
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    Caps taking it to the VGK. Love it.
     
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    thinkwild Veni Vidi Toga

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    Knights sure looked like they were starting well, but a couple of just missed goals and then the Caps come right back showing some killer instinct.

    Still dont like the idea of attempting to infer intent to judge pro hockey suspensions, its a mugs game
     
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    DSP is a great bottom 6'er. Costs half a Burrows too.
     
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