Around The NHL Discussion 2018-2019

[Dbrownss]

This will be ugly....lmao

 

[The Note in MI]

Really hope sharks got fleeced

Let them go for it now because in two years they’re gonna be in full rebuild.

 

[The Note]

Colorado fans also have to be jumping for joy. Ottawa roster looked bad with EK. They’ll be an absolute joke without him.

 

[Dbrownss]

Really hope sharks got fleeced

Let them go for it now because in two years they’re gonna be in full rebuild.

How do you fleece them? Aging great players. Good but not great young guys, not much in the prospect pool

 

[The Note in MI]

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How do you fleece them? Aging great players. Good but not great young guys, not much in the prospect pool

mean tons of picks or young roster players. Return seems meh for Ottawa and a bunch of junk really from San jose but that’s what there was.

 

[bleedblue1223]

For Athletic subscribers, were any of those guys in the top 100 list by Pronman?

 

[PiggySmalls]

I’d be disappointed in the return if I was a Sens fan. Doesn’t do much for me.

 

[bluebird enthusiast]

I have a friend from Springfield who is a big Senators fan. We got club level tickets and all to see the game on 19 Jan. I'm concerned he's going to back out due to not being a Sens fan after this trade.

 

[The Note]

That’s a bunch of junk for one of, if not the best, defenseman in the league. I don’t care if he’s only signed through this year, that’s awful.

 

[Dbrownss]

That's just a bunch of lols

 

[BleedBlue14]

What the hell is OTT doing. I understand a youth movement. But Josh Norris as the centerpiece of the deal? What the hell

 

[STL fan in MN]

Wow that’s bad.

SJ PP with both EK and Burns? Me scared.

 

[542365]

Terrible return for the Sens. Not quite as bad as Pronger to Edmonton, but pretty bad. I believe Karlsson to be the most overrated player in hockey(now that people have finally accepted that Toews is not a superstar), but he still should return more than that. Just a bunch of nothing players and "prospects".

 

[The Note in MI]

Terrible return for the Sens. Not quite as bad as Pronger to Edmonton, but pretty bad. I believe Karlsson to be the most overrated player in hockey(now that people have finally accepted that Toews is not a superstar), but he still should return more than that. Just a bunch of nothing players and "prospects".

I agree he is overrated.

 

[Lord Helix]

They still may not (read: won't) have a 2019 1st rounder because San Jose will owe it to Buffalo by making the playoffs, so...

 

[Falco Lombardi]

At least it wasn’t Dallas.

But now Colorado looks to be in great shape for a shot at Hughes

 

[Halak Ness Monster]

You know how fans always say:

"We should have traded him before he left for free agency! We knew he wasn't going to re-sign!"

This is the kind of offer GMs are getting for those kind of players they lose to free agency. Hence why they don't usually make the trade but rather try to re-sign the player.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

 

[Dbrownss]

They still may not (read: won't) have a 2019 1st rounder because San Jose will owe it to Buffalo by making the playoffs, so...

What's the conditions on the 1st to Buffalo? I remember it was based on Kane signing.

trading your 17 1st round pick player, pick a complete wild card in 18 then the move both the 19/20 1sts. All the while having a crappy prospect pool. Alright then. Might need to hit up ol Boomer and see if his SJS love is still there.


This will make SJS better, but their forwards are still meh. I fully expect Kane to remain a 50pt player

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

Our equivalent offer based on various player scores would have been:

Steen (Tierney)
Schmaltz (Demelo)
Foley/Stevens/Blais (Norris)
Kostin (Balcers)
+ picks

The Kostin equivalence is very debatable given the differences in upside between him and Balcers, but their seasons (adjusted for ice time, age, competition, etc) were similar (Kostin was slightly better).

We probably wouldn’t have been able to absorb Karlsson’s cap hit, and we definitely wouldn’t have been able to re-sign him, but... that’s a helluva trade from San Jose’s perspective.

 

[Lord Helix]

*stolen from the Ottawa board*

 

[Zamadoo]

Our equivalent offer based on various player scores would have been:

Steen (Tierney)
Schmaltz (Demelo)
Foley/Stevens/Blais (Norris)
Kostin (Balcers)
+ picks

The Kostin equivalence is very debatable given the differences in upside between him and Balcers, but their seasons (adjusted for ice time, age, competition, etc) were similar (Kostin was slightly better).

We probably wouldn’t have been able to absorb Karlsson’s cap hit, and we definitely wouldn’t have been able to re-sign him, but... that’s a helluva trade from San Jose’s perspective.

I would say Tierney is closer to Fabbri/Barbashev mix, and Norris more like Thompson, both due to age.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I would say Tierney is closer to Fabbri/Barbashev mix, and Norris more like Thompson, both due to age.

Stylistically, Tierney is closer to Barbashev than he is to Fabbri, but point taken.

Stylistically, the Norris-Stevens/Foley/Blais one is pretty apt I think. He shouldn’t have been the #19 pick, players like him are pretty common.

 

[Dbrownss]

I would say Tierney is closer to Fabbri/Barbashev mix, and Norris more like Thompson, both due to age.

Fabbri> Tierney. I do agree about Norris/Thompson.

 

[Zamadoo]

Stylistically, Tierney is closer to Barbashev than he is to Fabbri, but point taken.

Stylistically, the Norris-Stevens/Foley/Blais one is pretty apt I think. He shouldn’t have been the #19 pick, players like him are pretty common.

I've never seen Norris play, just that he's a #19OA 19 y/o. Comparing him as a prospect to other prospects drafted much later just didn't seem right. I'll take your word for it though.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

I do hate good things happening to San Jose. Oh well. Still won’t be a serious Cup contender