Around The NHL Discussion 2018-2019 - Part II

[Spektre]

The meltdown would have been epic had the lowly Canadiens gone into Toronto and taken game one. I was pulling for Montreal to finish it quickly in OT, but to no avail. I think many will enjoy the failings of the Leafs this season...even more so than usual.

The Sharks as a team don't impress me. I keep hearing about how great that defense is...but those two Norris winners leave a LOT to be desired with their play in their own zone. I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish a distant 3rd in that division (behind Vegas and Anaheim) and possibly lower with Coyotes and Kings better than last year. Flames still suck in my opinion, but will finish ahead of EDM & VAN.

It would be great if the Sharks miss the playoffs and Karlsson signs for another team.

 

[Dbrownss]

The meltdown would have been epic had the lowly Canadiens gone into Toronto and taken game one. I was pulling for Montreal to finish it quickly in OT, but to no avail. I think many will enjoy the failings of the Leafs this season...even more so than usual.

The Sharks as a team don't impress me. I keep hearing about how great that defense is...but those two Norris winners leave a LOT to be desired with their play in their own zone. I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish a distant 3rd in that division (behind Vegas and Anaheim) and possibly lower with Coyotes and Kings better than last year. Flames still suck in my opinion, but will finish ahead of EDM & VAN.

Strange, I thought they already won the cup

 

[TK 421]

Every time I saw that picture of Sunqvist last night I kept thinking about all of the Caps fans claiming that the hit was clean, and that it was as plain as the nose on his shoulder.

Lol internet high 5

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

The meltdown would have been epic had the lowly Canadiens gone into Toronto and taken game one. I was pulling for Montreal to finish it quickly in OT, but to no avail. I think many will enjoy the failings of the Leafs this season...even more so than usual.

The Sharks as a team don't impress me. I keep hearing about how great that defense is...but those two Norris winners leave a LOT to be desired with their play in their own zone. I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish a distant 3rd in that division (behind Vegas and Anaheim) and possibly lower with Coyotes and Kings better than last year. Flames still suck in my opinion, but will finish ahead of EDM & VAN.

Pretty funny when that PP unit with Karlsson and Burns gave up 3 short-handed goals in the last preseason game.

 

[DoubleK81]

The meltdown would have been epic had the lowly Canadiens gone into Toronto and taken game one. I was pulling for Montreal to finish it quickly in OT, but to no avail. I think many will enjoy the failings of the Leafs this season...even more so than usual.

I almost had a meltdown when I tuned in at the end of the 3rd and it was tied 2-2. Don't care for either team, but the Leafs were my big bet for the night considering it should have been a no-brainer.

 

[Dbrownss]

Anyone else getting a chuckle out of trouble in leaf paradise? Cant get Nylander to sign and it doesn't sound like any of the kids will give them a break

 

[Alklha]

Anyone else getting a chuckle out of trouble in leaf paradise? Cant get Nylander to sign and it doesn't sound like any of the kids will give them a break

I wonder how much of the problems with Nylander are down to Matthews. If Matthews was willing to take a "discount" then I imagine that the deal would have been done on July 1. So I think it is highly likely he's wanting more than the $11m that Tavares is on.

It is understandable for Nylander to look at that and think that he isn't going to take a discount if the top players aren't going to either.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Anyone else getting a chuckle out of trouble in leaf paradise? Cant get Nylander to sign and it doesn't sound like any of the kids will give them a break

Yeah, except I drafted Nylander in our fantasy league. (I don't mind if he holds out, its funny.) We'll just keep subbing in Ty Rattie!

Its got to be hard for an athlete to watch his team play and not be a part of it, in a closeknit team game like hockey.

 

[Dbrownss]

Yeah, except I drafted Nylander in our fantasy league. (I don't mind if he holds out, its funny.) We'll just keep subbing in Ty Rattie!

Its got to be hard for an athlete to watch his team play and not be a part of it, in a closeknit team game like hockey.

Probably does, but it's crazy to hear everyone expect him to accept 6m or whatever but Marner will get 9.5m and Matthews will get 11.5m. Im surprised he didnt offer up a 1yr for the leads, go nuclear and rake them over the coals.

Just hilarious after the comments from the GM about being able to sign eveyone

 

[Alklha]

The $6m stuff is hilarious. If memory serves the $6m contracts were basically set by the Oilers 5-6 years ago now. So that is when the cap was $64.3m, which would make $7.4 be the comparable now. There isn't any reason to expect to get players signing long term for $6m coming off their ELC.

 

[Dbrownss]

Given the talent in that top 6, Nylander is going to put up more then 60pts. He would instantly be underpaid.

My general rule of thumb is 1m per 10pts

 

[Stealth JD]

Blues East (Buffalo) look like crap.

 

[Celtic Note]

Vlassic is one of the better (read: the best imo) pure defensive dmen in the league. Braun is also solid from a pure shut-down perspective. Karlsson, while not the best defender, has improved that aspect of his game tremendously through his career. Burns....Burns is still terrible at D. But the other guy can cover his deficiencies. Its a very solid top 4 and in the conversation for best with the Preds.

The question I have is whether their elite defense makes up for their just ok offense. Same applies to Nashville.

 

[Majorityof1]

The question I have is whether their elite defense makes up for their just ok offense. Same applies to Nashville.

Oh agreed. I was just quibbling with the statement the D is overrated

 

[Stealth JD]

Oh agreed. I was just quibbling with the statement the D is overrated

Not only is the San Jose defense over-rated, i’ll go so far as to say it’s going to be closer to ‘mediocre’ than ‘good’. I think they’re going to have trouble getting favorable matchups for Burns & Karlsson (separately) and Vlasic can’t cover for both...nor will there be enough pucks to go around to get each the 70 points necessary to make you overlook the fact they’re both train wrecks defensively.

 

[BlueDream]

Lmao Avs feed certainly isn't lacking any homerism. Their poll question was where the Avs finish in the Central.

Choices were 1st, 2nd, 3rd or other.

Their commentators:

"2nd"

"No lower than 3rd, that's a guarantee"

 

[Thallis]

Lmao Avs feed certainly isn't lacking any homerism. Their poll question was where the Avs finish in the Central.

Choices were 1st, 2nd, 3rd or other.

Their commentators:

"2nd"

"No lower than 3rd, that's a guarantee"

Yikes

 

[Kind Sir]

Lmao Avs feed certainly isn't lacking any homerism. Their poll question was where the Avs finish in the Central.

Choices were 1st, 2nd, 3rd or other.

Their commentators:

"2nd"

"No lower than 3rd, that's a guarantee"

Cumulative effect of thin air and pot dispenseries.

 

[Ranksu]

Miro Heiskanen's first Shift. Speechless. Idk, how finnish glasses or not look that, I'm amazed. That kid is going to be pain in the arse for us. 'Moves like Jagger I mean EK65'

 

[542365]

Miro Heiskanen's first Shift. Speechless. Idk, how finnish glasses or not look that, I'm amazed. That kid is going to be pain in the arse for us. 'Moves like Jagger I mean EK65'

Yeah, he's a good one. That was his first shift too, no? Certainly didn't look nervous. I think he maybe could've taken one more stride before that cross crease pass to get just a slightly better angle, but it was still a very nice play. If his shot is any good he'll be a big time producer with that skating and stickhandling ability.

 

[KirkOut]

Miro Heiskanen's first Shift. Speechless. Idk, how finnish glasses or not look that, I'm amazed. That kid is going to be pain in the arse for us. 'Moves like Jagger I mean EK65'

Came here to post this. Holy crap he looks good

 

[Dbrownss]

I get it that he looks good but its 4 on 4 and OEL gave him a runway width path to go down...

 

[simon IC]

Probably does, but it's crazy to hear everyone expect him to accept 6m or whatever but Marner will get 9.5m and Matthews will get 11.5m. Im surprised he didnt offer up a 1yr for the leads, go nuclear and rake them over the coals.

Just hilarious after the comments from the GM about being able to sign eveyone

"We can and we will" Ba ha ha ha ha!!

 

[EastonBlues22]

I get it that he looks good but its 4 on 4 and OEL gave him a runway width path to go down...

In the span of one shift, he showed a good deal of speed getting down the ice, the awareness and passing ability to make a good back-door setup without telegraphing it, a quick, hard wrist shot release while shooting from his off foot, good gap closure at the defensive line (subsequently walling off his man and winning the puck), having the presence of mind to smoothly evade a forechecker with a quick stop and hold up the rush so his forwards could make a quick change, and then he beat another guy with the puck before getting it deep (to an area where his team could attack with numbers) so he could make a change himself.

None of it was jaw-dropping, per se, but that was an impressively well-rounded, poised, and impactful 45 seconds for a 19 year old rookie D in his first NHL shift.

 

[Dbrownss]

In the span of one shift, he showed a good deal of speed getting down the ice, the awareness and passing ability to make a good back-door setup without telegraphing it, a quick, hard wrist shot release while shooting from his off foot, good gap closure at the defensive line (subsequently walling off his man and winning the puck), having the presence of mind to smoothly evade a forechecker with a quick stop and hold up the rush so his forwards could make a quick change, and then he beat another guy with the puck before getting it deep (to an area where his team could attack with numbers) so he could make a change himself.

None of it was jaw-dropping, per se, but that was an impressively well-rounded, poised, and impactful 45 seconds for a 19 year old rookie D in his first NHL shift.

I only watched half of it that explains it, I thought it was just the initial rush