Around the NHL 2020-2021 | Offseason Edition

[Ricelund]

Man, I took a look at CBJ’s first-round picks today.

From 2000-2016:

• Klesla (#4 OA) - solid stay-at-home defenseman who played almost 700 NHL games
• Leclaire (#8) - 173 career games
• Nash (#1) - star (though never topped 79 points), ultimately traded for for Dubinsky, Anisimov, and Tim Erixon
• Zherdev (#4) - four years with CBJ (two of them decent) before being traded to NYR for Tyutin and Christian Backman
• Picard (#8) - 67 games over five seasons, 0 goals + 2 assists
• Brule (#6) - three years with CBJ, total bust, traded to EDM for Raffi Torres
• Brassard (#6) - decent journeyman 2C, traded to NYR for Gaborik
• Voracek (#7) - traded along with a 1st and 3rd for Jeff Carter, who later turned into Jack Johnson and Marko Dano
• Filatov (#6) - total bust, traded to Ottawa for a 3rd rounder
• John Moore (#21) - three seasons with CBJ, traded with others to NYR for Gaborik
• Johansen (#4) - traded for Seth Jones
• Ryan Murray (#2) - decent, injury-prone defenseman, traded to NJD for a 5th round pick
• Wennberg (#14) - bought out after 6 seasons
• Rychel (#19) - out of the NHL
• Dano (#27) - scrub - bounced around the league a bit and is now back with CBJ
• Milano (#16) - scrub - 116 games with CBJ over five years, now in Anaheim
• Werenski (#8) - star
• Carlsson (#29) - 24 years old, 23 NHL games over four years
• Dubois (#3) - good top-six power forward

So over 16 years, they netted Klesla, Nash (Dubinsky), Seth Jones, Werenski, and Dubois with 19 first-round picks (13 of those in the top 10, six in the top five).

Insane!

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Alexander Radulov defrauded out of over $20 million.

Radulov scammed out of $20M+ since 2015. Other Russian athletes also scammed.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Terrible Trade for the Sens lol

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Terrible Trade for the Sens lol

Excellent for us though, depletes their draft pick & improves their win% thus reducing their draft %. On paper I think our teams are very close, I'd say we actually have the slight advantage on F & D, but they have slightly better G, only because Murray is a proven starter & multiple cup winner.

I do feel good about the Greiss/Bernier combo. I'd rinse & repeat this method until we draft/sign cheaper UFA starter.

 

[Oddbob]

Terrible Trade for the Sens lol

My eyes can't believe a team just paid a 2nd rounder for a massive cap dump. 6.5 million for 28 pt player whose intangibles definitely don't make up the pt production being so low. TERRIAWFUL TRADE!

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

My eyes can't believe a team just paid a 2nd rounder for a massive cap dump. 6.5 million for 28 pt player whose intangibles definitely don't make up the pt production being so low. TERRIAWFUL TRADE!

It's b/c his salary is $2M. His bonus was $3M, which I believe was paid by AZ. Even with Stepan, they're wofully thin up front (worse than we are).

 

[Oddbob]

It's b/c his salary is $2M. His bonus was $3M, which I believe was paid by AZ. Even with Stepan, they're wofully thin up front (worse than we are).

You still don't give up a 2nd for that.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

You still don't give up a 2nd for that.

Agreed, but since it's not us, but a hated divisional rival (in virtually the identical same boat/stage of rebuild), I'm glad they did for the aforementioned reasons: draft pick capital, less cap to take TDL dump(s), increase win%/decrease lottery odds...all 4 in our favor.

 

[MBH]

Man, I took a look at CBJ’s first-round picks today.

From 2000-2016:

• Klesla (#4 OA) - solid stay-at-home defenseman who played almost 700 NHL games
• Leclaire (#8) - 173 career games
• Nash (#1) - star
• Zherdev (#4) - four years with CBJ (two of them decent) before being traded to NYR
• Brule (#6) - three years with CBJ, total bust
• Brassard (#6) - decent journeyman 2C
• Voracek (#7) - traded along with a 1st and 3rd for Jeff Carter, who later turned into Jack Johnson and Marko Dano
• Filatov (#6) - total bust, traded to Ottawa for a 3rd rounder
• John Moore (#21) - three seasons with CBJ, traded with others to NYR for Gaborik
• Johansen (#4) - traded for Seth Jones
• Ryan Murrray (#2) - decent, injury-prone defenseman
• Wennberg (#14) - bought out after 6 seasons
• Rychel (#19) - out of the NHL
• Dano (#27) - scrub - bounced around the league a bit and is now back with CBJ
• Milano (#16) - scrub - 116 games with CBJ over five years, now in Anaheim
• Werenski (#8) - star
• Carlsson (#29) - 24 years old, 23 NHL games over four years
• Dubois (#3) - good top-six power forward

Insane!

I remember watching Kirby Rychecl against the Whalers and thinking, "This guy is not an NHLer." Not sure if it was before or after the draft, but it was clear.

Some of these picks were straight dogs.
But they had their share of bad luck, too.
Wennberg was a pretty good player who ran into injury issues. I remember watching Brule in a preseason game against the Wings and he was the best player on the ice. Back then I thought the BJs were a team on the rise.

Looks like they've made some good picks lately.
Maybe they just needed to dump Tyler Wright.
Since 14 (first Post-Wright draft)
Milano: Meh. Obviously not a good pick pick, but i could see why they liked him.
Werenski: Nobody's complaining
Dubois: Seemed like a reac, but PL has been a good pick.
Foudy: Only played 2 regular season games but has potential.
Chinakhov: Another off-the-board pick. An overager too. His D+2 stats in the KHL are solid. Similar to Panarin's and Kirill Marchenko's.

 

[Ricelund]

Don’t do it, Kenny...

 

[lhsgolf19]

Don’t do it, Kenny...

I will laugh so hard

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I will laugh so hard

One of these threads I half-joked about the Kenny re-tread for Abby. Voila, not so crazy after all hahaha.

 

[redwings8831]

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Bolts trade D Braydon Coburn, F Cedric Paquette, 2nd round pick to Ottawa
Bolts trade D Braydon Coburn, F Cedric Paquette, 2nd round pick to Ottawa

Bolts acquire forward Marian Gaborik and goaltender Anders Nilsson from the Sens; both players will be placed on long-term injured reserve

_______________________________________________________________ Bolts with $16,975,000 on LTIR.

What could they do with Gaborik & Nilsson's LTIR? (Kuch maxes out their $8.15M LTIR)... trade to a cap basement team? Or does Vinik pay the extra $9M.

Sense recoup their 2nd from earlier trade yesterday;

while increasing win%/decreasing lottery odds...works in our favor.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Bolts trade D Braydon Coburn, F Cedric Paquette, 2nd round pick to Ottawa
Bolts trade D Braydon Coburn, F Cedric Paquette, 2nd round pick to Ottawa

Bolts acquire forward Marian Gaborik and goaltender Anders Nilsson from the Sens; both players will be placed on long-term injured reserve

_______________________________________________________________

What could they do with Gaborik & Nilsson's LTIR? (Kuch maxes out their $8.15M LTIR)... trade to a cap basement team?

Sense recoup their 2nd from earlier trade yesterday;

while increasing win%/decreasing lottery odds...works in our favor.

Yeah, I thought during our Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall talks that "LTIR isn't a bottomless pit we can bury dead contracts in. It's like a toilet that will back up if you do that".

How on Earth does Tampa have room to have Kucherov on there (for legitimate injury reasons) and Gaborik on there (for LTIRetirement) AND Nilsson for who the f*** knows? You can't have 16M in contracts on LTIR, can you?

Also, I'm surprised Ottawa helped Tampa out for so little benefit. Paquette is a nice bottom six C, but nice bottom six Cs are a dime a dozen and he's overpriced at 1.6M. Coburn is a corpse. With as widely known as Tampa's cap issues are... it seems like really bad negotiation to let them off without it really hurting a ton.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/penguins-valued-at-650m-received-4-82m-covid-loan/

"There are 123 teams among the Big Four North American Men’s Sports Leagues (MLB, NFL, NBA and NHL).
Only one of them received a loan under the Paycheck Protection Program.
That team is the Pittsburgh Penguins, who received a loan of $4.82 million through the program authorized by the CARES Act."

My understanding is that the LA Lakers gave their Covid loan back, leaving the Pens the only team to have one...

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Yeah, I thought during our Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall talks that "LTIR isn't a bottomless pit we can bury dead contracts in. It's like a toilet that will back up if you do that".

How on Earth does Tampa have room to have Kucherov on there (for legitimate injury reasons) and Gaborik on there (for LTIRetirement) AND Nilsson for who the f*** knows? You can't have 16M in contracts on LTIR, can you?

Also, I'm surprised Ottawa helped Tampa out for so little benefit. Paquette is a nice bottom six C, but nice bottom six Cs are a dime a dozen and he's overpriced at 1.6M. Coburn is a corpse. With as widely known as Tampa's cap issues are... it seems like really bad negotiation to let them off without it really hurting a ton.

combined salary @ 1yr. is only $3.3M, so a 2nd isn't bad at all considering Sens dumped $7.5M LTIR. I think the way it works is that if a team goes over the 10%, than the team has to pay it, not the insurance co., otherwise it'd be putting a limit on teams injuries in a contact sport, which wouldn't work.

Pacquette will be useful enough & Coburn is their Staal.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Corey Perry Signs One-Year Contract - NHL Rumors - NHLTradeRumors.Me

Perry to MTL.

Also M.Hoffman on PTO with STL. Not sure why a player of his caliber signs a PTO.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

 

[Ezekial]

Corey Perry Signs One-Year Contract - NHL Rumors - NHLTradeRumors.Me

Perry to MTL.

Also M.Hoffman on PTO with STL. Not sure why a player of his caliber signs a PTO.

Rumor has it that Hoffman has a handshake agreement for a deal but can't officially sign it until certain players have their contracts manipulated. A PTO allows him to be with the team while they wait.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Rumor has it that Hoffman has a handshake agreement for a deal but can't officially sign it until certain players have their contracts manipulated. A PTO allows him to be with the team while they wait.

I figured it was something like that, as there's been reports & speculation for 3 weeks on Hoff. Jan 13th can't come soon enough. (in the back of my mind, I'll believe we'll start the NHL season when I actually see it).

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Don’t do it, Kenny...

Man that is a really bad look if he does it.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

from FB/Complete Hockey News

Pens co-owner Ron Burkle buys Michael Jackson's 'Neverland Ranch' for $22M... Bad mojo. Too many (Pedo) allegations, very questionable family history & a strange drugged up "popstar". Pens are doomed.


Too often the rich, famous & powerful escape justice (Govt.'s, celebrities, special interest groups & activisits, business tycoons, large corporations) worldwide, since the dawn of time. Corruption is everywhere & we the common men & women are all subject to it directly and/or indirectly.


Should've been converted into a Children's Hospital or Orphanage for Homeless Kids.

 

[MBH]

Corey Perry Signs One-Year Contract - NHL Rumors - NHLTradeRumors.Me

Perry to MTL.

Also M.Hoffman on PTO with STL. Not sure why a player of his caliber signs a PTO.

Is Montreal cornering the market on big slow players? Seems like overcompensation.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Excellent for us though, depletes their draft pick & improves their win% thus reducing their draft %. On paper I think our teams are very close, I'd say we actually have the slight advantage on F & D, but they have slightly better G, only because Murray is a proven starter & multiple cup winner.

I do feel good about the Greiss/Bernier combo. I'd rinse & repeat this method until we draft/sign cheaper UFA starter.

I really don't see them improving their points % this year. Not in the Candian Division. They are the red headed stepchild of that division. By alot.

Speaking Candian Division.....

Are they gonna be apart of the Eastern Conference come playoff time? Has the NHL figured this out and I just glossed over it?