Around the NHL - 2014-2015 Edition

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The more I read ********* like this: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...-mlse-support/article22938348/?service=mobile

... the more I think Bettman will punish teams openly talking about losing and not trying. Send McDavid anywhere but Toronto, for the love of the hockey gods. It's pretty obvious they're throwing games, the players know it too. Management has said they're all being traded, so why play? It was dysfunctional to begin with.

Carolina, Columbus, Coyotes. Teams that have tried but just suck for various reasons. Reward them.

 

[0point1]

36 hours in and the Vegas NHL guys get 5,000 sign ups. Good odds Vegas gets 10,000 and gets strong consideration. Road trip anyone?

 

[The Grocery Stick]

The more I read ********* like this: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...-mlse-support/article22938348/?service=mobile

... the more I think Bettman will punish teams openly talking about losing and not trying. Send McDavid anywhere but Toronto, for the love of the hockey gods. It's pretty obvious they're throwing games, the players know it too. Management has said they're all being traded, so why play? It was dysfunctional to begin with.

Carolina, Columbus, Coyotes. Teams that have tried but just suck for various reasons. Reward them.

It would be hypocritical to set up a reward system for failure and then punish teams for failing in order to receive the rewards.

 

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It would be hypocritical to set up a reward system for failure and then punish teams for failing in order to received the rewards.

Which is why I want something more like the NBA lottery system, where every pick is drawn for, and the odds aren't nearly as good for the last few teams. Next year's system isn't enough.

The NHL should have seen this coming.

 

[Mosby]

Toronto has the 100 year celebration coming up next year. I totally expect them to half-ass this rebuild again.

 

[doaner]

Canucks claimed mcmillan.

 

[Thor Savage]

Canucks claimed mcmillan.

The link:

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=753061

 

[CC96]

It's too bad we didn't waive Moss instead. Anyway, best of luck to McMillan, hope he does well in Van city.

 

[IPreferPi]

Fare thee well McMillan. Thank you for your service.

I think McM would form a nice combo with Dorsett in Vancouver.

 

[Kaizen]

McMillan fits in well with Desjardins fixation on speed.

 

[mouser]

Which is why I want something more like the NBA lottery system, where every pick is drawn for, and the odds aren't nearly as good for the last few teams. Next year's system isn't enough.

The NHL should have seen this coming.

Next year's system is almost identical to the NBA's.

 

[The Grocery Stick]

Next year's system is almost identical to the NBA's.

And yet the NBA still has the Sixers.

 

[Sinurgy]

It would be hypocritical to set up a reward system for failure and then punish teams for failing in order to receive the rewards.

Hypocritical but not wrong. The system was intended to help those who are failing, not reward those who fail on purpose. I'd love to see the hockey gods put the smack down on these teams that are basically flaunting their tank.

 

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Next year's system is almost identical to the NBA's.

For some reason I thought the NBA drew for the top 5, not just the top 3. I'd like to see the top 10 drawn for, as an example.

 

[mouser]

For some reason I thought the NBA drew for the top 5, not just the top 3. I'd like to see the top 10 drawn for, as an example.

I figure it's still a big improvement. Every draft is different, but it seems like once you get past the first few picks in most years that scouting and development becomes just as important as taking the no-brainer highest rated available player.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Anyone catch the sharks and caps game from last night? What a game.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Anyone catch the sharks and caps game from last night? What a game.

Yeah, no lie. I got home tonight from work and realized I'd forgotten I'd recorded it, and somehow never found out who won.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Yeah, no lie. I got home tonight from work and realized I'd forgotten I'd recorded it, and somehow never found out who won.

I knew who won but didn't remember the score, still amazing. So much talent on those two teams it's stupid.

 

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I figure it's still a big improvement. Every draft is different, but it seems like once you get past the first few picks in most years that scouting and development becomes just as important as taking the no-brainer highest rated available player.

Many years we're still talking about three consensus top tier guys. I don't see how a top three draw solves the problem of tanking in that situation, if teams are still rewarded with better odds for losses.

Really, it has to be embarrassing to the league to have so many teams openly talking about losing and the draft this year.

 

[KG]

Many years we're still talking about three consensus top tier guys. I don't see how a top three draw solves the problem of tanking in that situation, if teams are still rewarded with better odds for losses.

Really, it has to be embarrassing to the league to have so many teams openly talking about losing and the draft this year.

Doesn't this happen in every sports league, though?

 

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Doesn't this happen in every sports league, though?

In the NFL there isn't as big a push to tank, as most teams are drafting for immediate positional need, and there's enough good players to go around. You can get starters in the third round. You might see a thrown game in a year with a surefire franchise #1 QB but even those guys, when picked, are not a sure thing. Tied records with coin flips are a thing. There is a lot of parity and an immense pressure to win in the NFL.

In the NBA, they use the NHL system, so you're not guaranteed the guy. In most NBA drafts, it's one or two guys that are really coveted. The thing with the NBA is that there's no parity, so bad teams never really make any attempt to be good in the first place. Draft picks outside the lottery are handed out like candy by the rich teams that just sign guys away from others.

MLB players get paid the most of any sport on individual performance, so they aren't going to be throwing games. Prospects can also refuse to sign with you, fairly regularly.

Hockey is unique in that teams are drafting for a year or two down the road, if not more, and almost never for immediate need. Hockey also has a pretty consistent top 2-3 guys every year that are just a cut above the rest, so teams try to get as close as possible. A few draft spots has a much bigger impact than the other sports. Hockey's favorite sons don't usually bust, even less so in recent years.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

They should make a point minimum that teams have to make to be eligible to be in the draft lottery..like 40 points

 

[KG]

I liked the idea I saw once of having teams play in draft playoffs. Not really sure how realistic that is.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

I liked the idea I saw once of having teams play in draft playoffs. Not really sure how realistic that is.

Well, how are you going to make the worst team better that way? King of the losers gets better and the rest will suck for another year or two longer.

 

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