Around the NHL - 2014-2015 Edition

[jacobhockey13]

0 goals on 24 shots so far. **** yeah! Dubs.

I'm honestly surprised Maloney wasn't able to work future considerations into the deal. At the time, I was just happy he was able to get it done, but I don't think Minnesota would have said no if he wanted the pick to become a 2nd rounder if Dubynk plays x amount of games in the regular season and the Wild make the playoffs. And a first rounder if Dubynyk plays y amount of games in the playoffs and the Wild win the Cup.

Obviously, I don't know if he pushed for this and the Wild said no, but it would have been nice were getting something more than a late third rounder for turning around Minnesota's entire season.

 

[_Del_]

He was good here, but he was coming off a meltdown of a season with two teams after which people were doubting he'd find a NHL gig. It was a one-year contract. I'm not sure what you all expected the market to be like.
He didn't have a future here and we turned half a season's pay into an extra draft pick. This is a win-win trade. Should Minnesota have demanded a condition that if he stank up the ice the pick became a 6th? You roll the dice and you take your chances.

 

[The Grocery Stick]

He was good here, but he was coming off a meltdown of a season with two teams after which people were doubting he'd find a NHL gig. It was a one-year contract. I'm not sure what you all expected the market to be like.
He didn't have a future here and we turned half a season's pay into an extra draft pick. This is a win-win trade. Should Minnesota have demanded a condition that if he stank up the ice the pick became a 6th? You roll the dice and you take your chances.

In the context you describe, it was a good deal. I suspect it's just overall frustration of having in our possession a better goalie than the current one we have and giving him up to be a team changer for another team while having to keep a bad goalie because of a bad contract. Dubnyk > 3rd round pick. Dubnyk > Smith. Dubnyk shown the door because Smith's deal is that bad = frustration.

 

[_Del_]

Well, right, but that's not Minnesota's problem. We did well by getting an asset for him, and if it has helped Smith turn around, that's good too. We're stuck with Smith. Might as well get used to it and hope he recovers.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Am I ever glad we weren't seriously in on the Kane sweepstakes... if this is true, it makes the Leafs fans' OEL trades look sensible.

 

[IPreferPi]

So "No Trades" Cheveldayoff is closer to pulling off a significant move than Maloney is. That's just peachy.

 

[IPreferPi]

It's official: Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian for Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, Joel Armia, Brendan Lemieux, and STL's/NYI's 2015 1st (whichever is lower)

 

[Mosby]

Glad we didn't touch Kane.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Buffalo's tank makes everyone else's tank look like a Matchbox car.

 

[IPreferPi]

Buffalo's tank makes everyone else's tank look like a Matchbox car.

Kane is effectively out for the rest of the season, but Bogosian for Myers is roughly a wash, Armia and Lemieux are not on the team, and Stafford is a non-factor like Korpi.

Don't think this trade makes the Sabres immediately worse, but once Kane gets healthy it could certainly speed up the rebuild.

 

[Matias Maccete]

Did myers ever improve after his great rookie year?

 

[Howler Scores]

Oh at first I thought they gave up their 1st pick but it was one of the other ones.

 

[_Del_]

I like Bogo over Myers all things considered, and Kane is ready as soon as next season. Armia and Lemieux and a first for Kane is pretty good return for Kane. More than I would have expected for Winnipeg. Stafford makes the money work.

Glad we didn't pay that price for Kane, but wish we'd do something.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Oh at first I thought they gave up their 1st pick but it was one of the other ones.

Yeah. Can't drive a tank without the right fuel.

 

[IPreferPi]

Did myers ever improve after his great rookie year?

After regressing, I think he's bounced back some over the past 2 seasons, but there's obvious disagreement on this. I think Bogosian has the higher upside.

 

[Howler Scores]

Yeah. Can't drive a tank without the right fuel.

Zing, looks like most Buffalo fans aint jumping for joy. Big move, have to wonder what DM will do and if it will be bold one way or the other.

 

[Grimes]

So what would the equivalent have been from the Yotes?

Stone, Korpi/Erat, Dauphin, Gormely, and our 2nd?

 

[Mosby]

Price for Yandle only goes up with Myers off the market.

 

[IPreferPi]

Apparently Buffalo may not be done with moves today either. Just canceled their practice today.

 

[IPreferPi]

So what would the equivalent have been from the Yotes?

Stone, Korpi/Erat, Dauphin, Gormely, and our 2nd?

I would guess something like Gormley, Lessio/Reider/Dauphin, Korpi/Erat, and our 2nd would have been an equivalent package.

 

[Jakey53]

Kane is effectively out for the rest of the season, but Bogosian for Myers is roughly a wash, Armia and Lemieux are not on the team, and Stafford is a non-factor like Korpi.

Don't think this trade makes the Sabres immediately worse, but once Kane gets healthy it could certainly speed up the rebuild.

I think it is a great trade for Buffalo.

 

[Grimes]

I would guess something like Gormley, Lessio/Reider/Dauphin, Korpi/Erat, and our 2nd would have been an equivalent package.

I think I could have swallowed that, but I doubt Bogo comes back with that package. Making it less appealing.

 

[mouser]

I like Bogo over Myers all things considered, and Kane is ready as soon as next season. Armia and Lemieux and a first for Kane is pretty good return for Kane. More than I would have expected for Winnipeg. Stafford makes the money work.

I would lean towards Bogo as well. Haven't been all that impressed with Myers development since his rookie season.

 

[Matias Maccete]

I wonder if with that trade done we see vermette go soon.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Ducks are going to be hungry for blueline help after this because they were trying to get Myers. Could work for us.