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iceburg

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Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel a combined 25 games, 0 goals, 1 assist, -14, cap hit $12M

I don't miss that.
 
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Chychrun is on pace for -131. Poor guy.

Ouch. 10 games, 0 goals, 0 assists, 20 PIM (no fights), -16.

They lost a lot of veteran Dmen in one offseason: OEL, Goligoski, Hjamarsson, Demers. Only added Stralman.
 

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Ouch. 10 games, 0 goals, 0 assists, 20 PIM (no fights), -16.

They lost a lot of veteran Dmen in one offseason: OEL, Goligoski, Hjamarsson, Demers. Only added Stralman.
He’s got a long term deal so no impact on his contract. But sucks for him.

but that is something he should have considered when he extended long term with AZ. He signed in like 2019 or something? That is still 7 years since they last made the PO. So did he really expect things to change for them with their arena issues? Got paid but signed away a couple of ufa years.
 

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ARZ has 8 picks in the first 2 rounds of the 2022 draft and 18 picks in the first 3 rounds over the next three years
 
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ARZ has 8 picks in the first 2 rounds of the 2022 draft and 18 picks in the first 3 rounds over the next three years
Most of those guys will be ready for them Nhl by the time he’s done his current contract.

AZ owns theirs, Colorado and most likely the Carolina pick in round 1.
AZ pick should play next season the other 2 not for 1-2 more seasons realistically. Possibly 3. Majority of 2nd rounders don’t play til draft + 2/3 years.
Guys like Keller and Chrychurn just have to bear the brunt of the losing til then.
 

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Most of those guys will be ready for them Nhl by the time he’s done his current contract.

AZ owns theirs, Colorado and most likely the Carolina pick in round 1.
AZ pick should play next season the other 2 not for 1-2 more seasons realistically. Possibly 3. Majority of 2nd rounders don’t play til draft + 2/3 years.
Guys like Keller and Chrychurn just have to bear the brunt of the losing til then.

Keller, Chychrun, Hayton, and Guenther all 23 or younger.

From capfriendly I'm interpreting that they get the best of the Montreal or Carolina pick or worst if both are in the top 10 which is highly unlikely with Carolina being a very good team. So they could have their own certain to be top 5 and another top 10 maybe even top 5 in 2022. Plus the Colorado pick (#25?). If they get two top 5s, both will likely be in the NHL next year because it's Arizona.

It's also completely feasible that 7 of the 8 picks in rounds 1 and 2 next year will be top 40. That's 7 of the top 40 draft eligible players. That's pretty crazy.

And to add to all that, they will have $50Mish in cap space. :laugh: Should be fun to watch!
 
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Detroit has a ton of picks as well I believe. At least they're somewhat competative.
They have an additional 2nd and two additional 4ths. So, 7 picks in the the first 4 rounds next year.

But they also have Seider, Raymond and Zadina on their roster already.
 
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He’s got a long term deal so no impact on his contract. But sucks for him.

but that is something he should have considered when he extended long term with AZ. He signed in like 2019 or something? That is still 7 years since they last made the PO. So did he really expect things to change for them with their arena issues? Got paid but signed away a couple of ufa years.

He signed in Nov. 2018 (one year early). Surprisingly he only has 3 years remaining after this year and will only be 27 by the end of it. At least Galchenyuk is back with the team and Keller is still there.
 

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Keller, Chychrun, Hayton, and Guenther all 23 or younger.

From capfriendly I'm interpreting that they get the best of the Montreal or Carolina pick or worst if both are in the top 10 which is highly unlikely with Carolina being a very good team. So they could have their own certain to be top 5 and another top 10 maybe even top 5 in 2022. Plus the Colorado pick (#25?). If they get two top 5s, both will likely be in the NHL next year because it's Arizona.

It's also completely feasible that 7 of the 8 picks in rounds 1 and 2 next year will be top 40. That's 7 of the top 40 draft eligible players. That's pretty crazy.

And to add to all that, they will have $50Mish in cap space. :laugh: Should be fun to watch!
As we have seen in the nfl, having picks is good but still need to make them count. 2 fold strategy is using the picks for cheap players and using the freed up cap to fill in other areas. But still comes down to making the picks count and developing them.
 
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As we have seen in the nfl, having picks is good but still need to make them count. 2 fold strategy is using the picks for cheap players and using the freed up cap to fill in other areas. But still comes down to making the picks count and developing them.

Yep. The Coyotes aren't going anywhere until Doan wears the C.
 

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Chrychurn will likely ask for a trade out as well at some point. Hard to be on a perennial loser.

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Look at how the Cowboys handled a specific situation:

Herschel Walker trade - Wikipedia
Miami Dolphins moved a pro bowl caliber S in Fitzpatrick for a first and a top 5-10 LT for 3 firsts and a 2nd.
Netted them a 3rd CB, OT that is not close to what they gave up. S in round 2 that doesn’t project to be as good as Fitzpatrick. Flipped that 3OA first for 3 firsts but gave up their first this draft to move back up for Waddle. So, netting their pick and the SF pick for 2022 off leaves them 1 more future first from SF for what they gave up.

Tunsil on a big contract so they have cap space not paying him. Fitzpatrick still on the rookie deal.

that’s also what happens when the picks don’t turn out as well. Miami 1-7 so far this season.

raiders didn’t do a lot with their Mack picks either.

can’t recall what The Jaguars did with their Ramsey picks. And see what Detroit does with their Stafford picks.

maybe the coyotes do as well as Dallas but maybe they do as poorly as Miami and others.
 

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Eriksson, Beagle, Roussel a combined 25 games, 0 goals, 1 assist, -14, cap hit $12M

I don't miss that.
Curious how some people have forgoten about them. When most of us complain about them being a waste of cap space, we would get ridiculous justification to why Jimbo signed them. They can't play and can't mentor and bring nothing to the table.They have been an waste of capspace since day 1.
 
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Tkachuk + 1st + prospect(former 1st) + 2 more prospects

Kevin Weekes
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For all asking, my understanding is the
@NHLFlames
have Tkachuk ( who is a future potential captain) an upcoming 1 Rd pick, a former 1st Rd pick, and 2 prospects in the Eichel sweepstakes with the
@BuffaloSabres
.
@espn
@NHLNetwork
#HockeyTwitter .

Thanks. I think one issue with Tkachuk is that he is seen as a rental (along with $9M qualifying offer). Seems like Calgary is willing to empty their cupboards for Eichel.
 

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Thanks. I think one issue with Tkachuk is that he is seen as a rental (along with $9M qualifying offer). Seems like Calgary is willing to empty their cupboards for Eichel.
Buffalo would then have to flip Tkachuk. Don’t see him wanting to endure a rebuild when he’s a year away from ufa.
 
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