Tidbits: Around the League: NHL News - Part 2

[Dr Jan Itor]

What does a guy like McDavid have to do to get into the conversation for the GOAT? Multiple 2ppg seasons and a few cups? I never watched Gretzky. This McDavid guy is the most dynamic player I've ever watched.

2X Conn Smythe
9X Hart Trophy
10X Art Ross

These are the targets, along with winning the Art Ross with the same level of domination over his peers. The raw point totals will never be there, like QBs now vs. QBs in the late 90s/early 200os.

I think he's at least going to be the guy to end the whole "Gretzky has more assists than everybody else has points" thing though, when it's all said and done. Only other guy with >2,000 points.

 

[2Pair]

2X Conn Smythe
9X Hart Trophy
10X Art Ross

These are the targets, along with winning the Art Ross with the same level of domination over his peers. The raw point totals will never be there, like QBs now vs. QBs in the late 90s/early 200os.

I think he's at least going to be the guy to end the whole "Gretzky has more assists than everybody else has points" thing though, when it's all said and done. Only other guy with >2,000 points.

You're thinking McDavid reaches 2000 points? That's a long ways away

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

You're thinking McDavid reaches 2000 points? That's a long ways away

It is, and a lot has to go right for him to do so.

But let's say that he finishes this year at 700 points (would actually require him to go on a bit of a cold streak). He still has 5 more years in his 20's... let's say that he averages 120 points per season, so that gets him to 1,300 at 30 years old. He'd need 700 points for however long he decides to play for the rest of his career. Chances are he's still >100 points per season in his early 30's which helps insulate the later years when he won't be as much.

I don't think I'd bet heavily on him doing it, but I can see a world where it happens.

 

[2Pair]

It is, and a lot has to go right for him to do so.

But let's say that he finishes this year at 700 points (would actually require him to go on a bit of a cold streak). He still has 5 more years in his 20's... let's say that he averages 120 points per season, so that gets him to 1,300 at 30 years old. He'd need 700 points for however long he decides to play for the rest of his career. Chances are he's still >100 points per season in his early 30's which helps insulate the later years when he won't be as much.

I don't think I'd bet heavily on him doing it, but I can see a world where it happens.

120 points per season until he's 35 would still leave him short of 2K.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

120 points per season until he's 35 would still leave him short of 2K.

By ~100. Seems attainable if he plays until he's 38 or something.

Of course, if he maintains this and last season's level of production for a little while, then it gets all the better.

Like I said, a lot of things have to go optimally for him, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they do.

 

[Gurglesons]

It is, and a lot has to go right for him to do so.

But let's say that he finishes this year at 700 points (would actually require him to go on a bit of a cold streak). He still has 5 more years in his 20's... let's say that he averages 120 points per season, so that gets him to 1,300 at 30 years old. He'd need 700 points for however long he decides to play for the rest of his career. Chances are he's still >100 points per season in his early 30's which helps insulate the later years when he won't be as much.

I don't think I'd bet heavily on him doing it, but I can see a world where it happens.

McDavid’s game is going to fall off a cliff if he gets any significant LBIs.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

McDavid’s game is going to fall off a cliff if he gets any significant LBIs.

Yes, that would be a part of things not going right.

 

[TaLoN]

McDavid’s game is going to fall off a cliff if he gets any significant LBIs.

That's the thing too about Gretzky... in his mid/late 30's, playing in the dead puck era, a broken down old man with a bad back... he still put up 90 points!

With him it was as much if not more about being a mental hockey genius as being very skilled with the puck. He thought the game faster than anyone before or since. He knew what you were going to do before you did! Always 2 steps ahead of everyone else.

 

[TaLoN]

 

[57special]

Bergevin fired in MTL.

 

[Bazeek]

Bergevin fired in MTL.

I can't even imagine what it's like to be a Canucks fan, watching the Habs go to the Finals and then fire their GM two months into the next season.

 

[57special]

I can't even imagine what it's like to be a Canucks fan, watching the Habs go to the Finals and then fire their GM two months into the next season.

...great, and very depressing point, if you are a Canucks fan.

 

[Prior]

I’d throw the Senators into that pile as well. Front office has been pretty well teflon while being terrible and not adding really anything noteworthy throughout that timeframe. Not to mention still not having much hope of climbing out of it.

 

[NHL1674]

You know you're at a damn good hockey when....

 

[thestonedkoala]

I can't even imagine what it's like to be a Canucks fan, watching the Habs go to the Finals and then fire their GM two months into the next season.

Bergevin has been on the hot seat for a while; he didn't do himself any favors for drafting Mailloux. Plus there is so much more pressure in Montreal.

 

[Bazeek]

Bergevin has been on the hot seat for a while; he didn't do himself any favors for drafting Mailloux. Plus there is so much more pressure in Montreal.

All of which should really apply to Benning as well. The fact that it hasn't seems indicative of the problem in Vancouver.

 

[thestonedkoala]

All of which should really apply to Benning as well. The fact that it hasn't seems indicative of the problem in Vancouver.

Eh, the Montreal market is much different than the Vancouver market. Sort of like how there is more pressure for the New York Rangers than the New York Islanders.

 

[57special]

Jets(46 shots) just lost to ARI(15 shots) 1-0. Jets went 0 for 6 on the PP.

 

[Bazeek]

Jets(46 shots) just lost to ARI(15 shots) 1-0. Jets went 0 for 6 on the PP.

I just saw that and could almost hear the teeth grinding in Winnipeg all the way from Madison.

 

[57special]

I think they might be a bit testy up there for a while. Who would think that a team with that talent would have trouble scoring?

 

[Minnewildsota]

I think they might be a bit testy up there for a while. Who would think that a team with that talent would have trouble scoring?

I mean, they did trade away Laine

 

[NHL1674]

Jets(46 shots) just lost to ARI(15 shots) 1-0. Jets went 0 for 6 on the PP.

We just beat Tampa...the back to back Champs. Now we're gonna face Arizona....who will be on the second game of a back to back....and on our home ice. You thinking what I'm thinking?

 

[57special]

We just beat Tampa...the back to back Champs. Now we're gonna face Arizona....who will be on the second game of a back to back....and on our home ice. You thinking what I'm thinking?

Naw...if ARI had lost then i'd be worried. They can't be playing the same goalie again tomorrow after facing 46 shots, and if they do, he'll be dead tired.

I did have the same thought for a minute, though. Things have been going too well around here lately.

 

[fentonsbrainchild]

Hughes contract will be a steal if he stays relatively healthy

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Hughes contract will be a steal if he stays relatively healthy

It'll be a steal if he becomes a 100+ point player.