Perhaps he ends up being the Woj-like insider ESPN is potentially in the market for.
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Around the League 27: Why u do dis Dolan?
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CanesFanBudMan
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If I were in charge I would set it up as the following. Regardless of how many games they played for someone to participate in the playoffs they would have to count towards the cap hit for at least the post deadline cap amount for their salary. I would allow the team to swap the cap hit for the same number of cap days for a player who will not be participating in the playoffs.
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My theory is stability until Yzerman finds his coach. Must not be one available in this year. Or perhaps he does have faith in Bashill.
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That's a team name that will never be found in Butte.
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Though the Rangers are sorta my #2 team (mom from NY and a long-time fan), imma be pissed if they manage a top 3 after being gifted Laf and Kappo. We got our #2 and became a contender, other teams seem to rack up 2-3 top 5 picks before elevating
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TBF, we became a contender (i.e. 2019 ECF run) before Svech even really started to contribute at an above-replacement level, because our drafting and developing was so superb before that, to the point where guys drafted in the second round and below were core pieces of the franchise (Slavin, Pesce, Aho, Teravainen [who was acquired for a 2nd round pick]). Rangers (and the vast majority of clubs not named Carolina or Tampa) don't have nearly as prolific a record in the lower rounds, which is why it's going to take them numerous high picks to become a contender.
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I was wondering if you guys could tell me about Hasek when he played. I am going to watch some videos of his but what made him at least top 3 goalie ever?
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He was gumby. Made of pure rubber. Everything he did was unothodox and instinctive. He was acquired by Buffalo and they also got HOF'er Grant Fuhr to be the presumed starter. Fuhr got hurt, Hasek played one game and it was over for Fuhr. Every single night there were ridiculous highlight saves that were so unique looking because he just didnt have the same form as everyone else. He's a bit like Mrazek when he's all over the place except when it's Hasek it was always the right place to be. On top of being truly athletic and skilled at the position he had an over the top desire to never let anything in. Even in practice he was always at 100%. He never gave up on plays. It's unlikely you can find many highlights of his first couple of seasons, which is a shame because I've never seen anything like it. He could carry the team all by himself other than scoring.
He had actually played in a cup final game against the Pens that was memorable and likely led to Buffalo getting him. It was a crazy 7-6 game I think, Belfour was getting lit up so they put him in. He made some great stops against one of the best offensive teams ever. Prime Lemieux/Jagr/Francis. He did something in that game that he did a few times, Kevin Stevens had a breakaway but he looked down to collect the puck and Hasek tackled him between the top of the circles and the blue line - it was an a play pretty much never seen before. The balls he had to even try it....and he was a rookie backup in a cup final.
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tarheelhockey
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Hasek had a way of just breaking a team's soul. There have been a bunch of other goalies who had red-hot runs where they seemed unbeatable. It was more than that. Hasek would deliberately set up completely insane saves that nobody should ever attempt, and make those saves on purpose. Stuff like pad-stacking on one side of the net and then reaching over to snatch a shot on the other side with his glove. He did it on purpose, knowing where the shot would be when his glove got there.
Think of all the "save of the year" threads where people blow it off as a goalie flailing around and getting lucky that the shot happened to hit the stick or pad he threw out in desperation. Now imagine seeing that, and knowing it wasn't an accident. That was Hasek. He seemed truly unbeatable at times, like literally unbeatable, and you'd see teams start over-passing because they'd be afraid of having easy goals stolen away.
Goalie analysts seem to have settled on the explanation that he had a Gretzky-like intuition about vertical angles, so he would put the bare minimum amount of equipment at the precise spot where it denied any realistic chance for the shooter to lift the puck under the crossbar. That allowed him to be all over the crease, using his Gumby-like athleticism to cut off multiple point-blank chances that each seemed like a sure thing.
It was unlike anything I've ever seen from any other goalie, even guys like Roy and Brodeur and Price at their absolute hottest. As far as I'm concerned, Hasek is no worse than the #2 goalie of all time and the only guy with an argument over him is Patrick Roy based on having a lot more team success with comparable statistical heights.
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He could do things outside of pretty much any of the traditional goalie structures and styles that pretty much no other goalie has ever been able to do. He truly carried some mediocre-at-best Sabres teams on his back to moderate success. And he had a slinky for a spine. If I had to take one goalie to win it all, I'd still probably take Patrick Roy (super biased as an Avs fan but he was clutch). But if I had to choose the most talented goalie I've ever seen, I think it'd be Hasek pretty easily.
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Picking ten best saves with this guy is like trying to pick ten Lemieux goals when there's a 100 to choose from that are worthy. It gives you an idea of how creative he was, and how he just never gave up on anything. There's a few of what Tarheel is talking about where he intentionally does something unexpected like dropping his stick to use his blocker like a glove or intentionally barrel rolling.
Doug Weight's move is one of my favorite all time moves and it worked a bunch of times. Hasek stuffed him.
bleedgreen
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Way better one, at around 3 minutes they show him slide tackling fools.
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To tell you how good he is, I knew this was a save video and I still expected some of those to go in based on what a goalie today would do. Good lord. His sense of timing is ridiculous. And you guys say he did all this while under control? Wow! That scorpion save was easily my favorite.
Thank you @bleedgreen @Azor Aho and @tarheelhockey. I learned a lot.
Now I am going to see why Brodeur had the trapezoid created because of him.
tarheelhockey
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Even just the first few seconds of this, before they start the actual countdown, tells you all you need to know about how Hasek manipulated shooters into what looked like a sure goal only to steal it away.
In the context of a game like last night’s, getting hit with a couple of those has a way of changing the tone. In the blink of an eye you go from “we finally beat this guy” to “we’re not gonna beat this guy, are we?”.
Hasek is the one player I would seriously consider putting on the hockey Mount Rushmore with Gretzky/Orr/Howe/Lemieux. The only things holding him back are:
1) His best years were in Buffalo rather than a franchise that could realistically have converted his talent into Cups, and goalies are judged harshly on team results (which was even more true at that time, before Luongo/Lundquist/Price)
2) He was a notorious flake who brought an off-ice element that you don’t see with the Big 4 guys, not even Mario who had his prima donna moments. Hasek was an outright coach-killer and media-puncher. Roy, Belfour, Fuhr (drugs), Barrasso had the same quality which made them feel expendable at times when they were at the height of their powers, something that shouldn’t happen with a player of that caliber.
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Yeah for sure on your two points. It's hard not to put him on Rushmore though. He was too good. Your point about Roy makes sense, and that guy definitely elevated for big games but especially if you're talking early days Hasek I'd have to take him.
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So is Ned anything like Brodeur? I see they both handle the puck well. I imagine it makes the defense take less hits so they are happy. Are their any similarly between the two?
Completely unrelated but Sean Avery = all time great troll.
Completely unrelated but Sean Avery = all time great troll.
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Hasek won the Hart Trophy two years in a row and then was maybe even better the 3rd year after that he didn't win. Pretty impressive when goalies rarely even get a sniff. Seriously, if he'd been on the Wings early in his career instead of just late or the Avs during the height of their power, he would have easily won them as many or more Cups as they won. Also kinda crazy how late his career started agewise.
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