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- Mar 21, 2007
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Let’s try to keep the discussion here around the league, we have a team thread and GDT’s for Devils arguments.
When a big name ufa chooses to come here I will believe it’s a place to play. Until then nj is lumped in with the other cities that ufa don’t want to go there.
as for the rangers cap with eichel? I’m sure they will find a way to make it work they won’t be strung up by a cap crunch even though that’s what everyone on here seems to imply.
Rags gotta pay a lot of players, This off season Shesterkin, Buchnevich, Chytil, and Lindgren next year, Fox, Kappo, and Zibanejad. They are going to need to do a lot of juggling to make it all work. The Kreider and Trouba contracts are going to hurt them. We will be right behind them shortly with some ELCs ending, but we have more time and as long as we don't saddle the team with bad contracts we should be OK.When a big name ufa chooses to come here I will believe it’s a place to play. Until then nj is lumped in with the other cities that ufa don’t want to go there.
as for the rangers cap with eichel? I’m sure they will find a way to make it work they won’t be strung up by a cap crunch even though that’s what everyone on here seems to imply.
I would think that most deals for Eichel would most likely include Strome. I read one a couple weeks back which was underwhelming from the Buffalo perspective, something like Strome, Miller, 1st round pick, and low level prospect. Can't remember where I saw it.My guess is that if the NYR trade for Eichel, they will do what other cap strapped teams do and they will find a way to keep core players but their depth will get depleted as young players finish their ELCs. For example. I expect the Rangers will keep Shesty, but spin off Georgiev for whatever pick they can get. Similarly, if Kakko develops, maybe they spin off Buchenevic for whatever pick they can get next year at the TDL. They will trade Strome for a pick if they get Eichel since Strome will be redundant. Things like that. They won't have to move Fox or Miller or Shesty or Laf most likely. I think the big question will be paying Zib. He's been very good for them and I imagine the point of an Eichel trade would be to keep both of them on the team with Panarin and Kreider. I expect if that happens the Rangers would be very competitive with the best teams in the league until Panarin, Kreider, Zib, and Touba slow down. That could be a five year window for them. Give them credit, they've done a good job retooling.
I would think that most deals for Eichel would most likely include Strome. I read one a couple weeks back which was underwhelming from the Buffalo perspective, something like Strome, Miller, 1st round pick, and low level prospect. Can't remember where I saw it.
I don’t see any deal not including Chytil over Strome, Strome is 27 and was drafted in the same draft with Zibanejad (2011). The Sabres would need to get something at center a little more longterm then a guy who’s going to be a UFA in 2022-23.I would think that most deals for Eichel would most likely include Strome. I read one a couple weeks back which was underwhelming from the Buffalo perspective, something like Strome, Miller, 1st round pick, and low level prospect. Can't remember where I saw it.
Can someone please explain to me why Jack looks at what the team looks like now that a non idiot is the coach (A legitimate and credible NHL team) and goes "Get me out of here"?
My guess is that if the NYR trade for Eichel, they will do what other cap strapped teams do and they will find a way to keep core players but their depth will get depleted as young players finish their ELCs. For example. I expect the Rangers will keep Shesty, but spin off Georgiev for whatever pick they can get. Similarly, if Kakko develops, maybe they spin off Buchenevic for whatever pick they can get next year at the TDL. They will trade Strome for a pick if they get Eichel since Strome will be redundant. Things like that. They won't have to move Fox or Miller or Shesty or Laf most likely. I think the big question will be paying Zib. He's been very good for them and I imagine the point of an Eichel trade would be to keep both of them on the team with Panarin and Kreider. I expect if that happens the Rangers would be very competitive with the best teams in the league until Panarin, Kreider, Zib, and Touba slow down. That could be a five year window for them. Give them credit, they've done a good job retooling.
Rags gotta pay a lot of players, This off season Shesterkin, Buchnevich, Chytil, and Lindgren next year, Fox, Kappo, and Zibanejad. They are going to need to do a lot of juggling to make it all work. The Kreider and Trouba contracts are going to hurt them. We will be right behind them shortly with some ELCs ending, but we have more time and as long as we don't saddle the team with bad contracts we should be OK.
I'm just using particular players to illustrate the point of how I see it playing out from a cap perspective. My guess is that Kakko would be part of a trade. Strome is just a placeholder for BUF. I'd expect something like Kakko, a young defender not named Fox or Miller, a first, and maybe Chytil, and then Strome to fill the gap for BUF for a year.
Can someone please explain to me why Jack looks at what the team looks like now that a non idiot is the coach (A legitimate and credible NHL team) and goes "Get me out of here"?
Also while probably not fair I am sure he doesn't love being labeled a "coach killer." It very well could just be time for a fresh start. He is valuable to the franchise if he stays through the rebuild or if he moves on bringing back a ton of assets for the organization that drafted him.Because he will be 25 at the start of next season. It will be his 7th season. They've finished 23rd, 26th, 31st, 27th, 25th, another potential 31st. That's 1 or 2 last place finishes. 4 of 6 in the bottom 5. The 2 years that weren't bottom 5 were 8th worst and 6th worst. It doesn't even look like they're close to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel nor does it even really look like there's a clear path to exit the tunnel. The real question is why he'd want to stay in Buffalo and tough it out rather than get moved somewhere better
Also while probably not fair I am sure he doesn't love being labeled a "coach killer." It very well could just be time for a fresh start. He is valuable to the franchise if he stays through the rebuild or if he moves on bringing back a ton of assets for the organization that drafted him.
Hey I am not saying he is, but it certainly has been said about him plenty.this guys a coach killer that guys lazy over there is a trouble maker that one doesn't hustle. who makes this stuff up? just phrases to write about and speculate.
These aren’t baseless rumors or lazy speculation though, they just really very much resemble those in every way. I guess one worry is Adams could do something dumb but even he has to know the price for Eichel is very high and the Rangers probably are wary of ponying up.Can someone please explain to me why Jack looks at what the team looks like now that a non idiot is the coach (A legitimate and credible NHL team) and goes "Get me out of here"?
Well that explains that.“When I mentioned it, the specific region that actually took him out of the game, the first time I’d heard about it was warmup,” Krueger said. “But that he was injured and that he came out of the Jersey game injured was clear to me. But it turns out that there was multiple lower-body injuries and whatever.
“The point is that he came out of Jersey hurt. The warmup call and the region that ended up being aggravating, it was his first time back in his skates since that game and it changed the game. Now we’re working on his health and getting him fit again, but I definitely didn’t do gamesmanship there. It was just that we had hoped he was going to play that game.”
As a random aside I was at both games 1 and 5 in Philly and the Sabres won both.Or to put it more succinctly, Lindy Ruff was the last coach there who even finished above .500 and that was three stops ago for Lindy.
Have you watched us play since we rid ourselves of the Kreugervirus? It's like night and day. This is the first time in God knows how long where there is a real feeling of hope among Sabres fans watching guys like Dahlin, Cozens, Casey, Tage, R2D2, Joker ect. looking incredible.Because he will be 25 at the start of next season. It will be his 7th season. They've finished 23rd, 26th, 31st, 27th, 25th, another potential 31st. That's 1 or 2 last place finishes. 4 of 6 in the bottom 5. The 2 years that weren't bottom 5 were 8th worst and 6th worst. It doesn't even look like they're close to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel nor does it even really look like there's a clear path to exit the tunnel. The real question is why he'd want to stay in Buffalo and tough it out rather than get moved somewhere better
Yes, by people whose diets consist of bowls of lead paint chips.Hey I am not saying he is, but it certainly has been said about him plenty.
They do look good I agree with you, maybe he just doesn't care and wants out.Have you watched us play since we rid ourselves of the Kreugervirus? It's like night and day. This is the first time in God knows how long where there is a real feeling of hope among Sabres fans watching guys like Dahlin, Cozens, Casey, Tage, R2D2, Joker ect. looking incredible.
They do look good I agree with you, maybe he just doesn't care and wants out.