Around the Dome II: Flames hockey-related news and notes

[DCDM]

I prefer intellectualism. Obviously you Liberals don't understand freedom.

 

[1989]

I prefer intellectualism. Obviously you Liberals don't understand freedom.

Unrelated, but do you wear a fedora?

edit: My god @Deebious that was simultaneous.

 

[DCDM]

Unrelated, but do you wear a fedora?

edit: My god @Deebious that was simultaneous.

Great minds

 

[Calculon]

 

[Lunatik]

I prefer intellectualism and freedom. Obviously you Liberals don't understand freedom. Shunning smokers is the same as Trump not letting Immigrants in basically. Hypocritical. Your body, Your choice #MeToo. You already pushed smoker into the concourse around the dome. Now all the air is yours so you can live your perfect lives so that no one else can? Hate to tell you but, those chairs and the Saddledome is filled with mold after the flood.

wow, talk about a victim complex. Who give a f*** about potential health risks to others, as long as you get your fix, right?

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I prefer intellectualism and freedom. Obviously you Liberals don't understand freedom. Shunning smokers is the same as Trump not letting Immigrants in basically. Hypocritical. Your body, Your choice #MeToo. You already pushed smoker into the concourse around the dome. Now all the air is yours so you can live your perfect lives so that no one else can? Hate to tell you but, those chairs and the Saddledome is filled with mold after the flood.

You haven't explained to us why you should have the right to potentially impose health risks on others in a public setting.

The fact you think its the same as separating children from their parents and keeping them in jail like settings is so beyond laughable. The fact you need to throw out a bunch of strawman arguments to defend youself is pretty telling.

I'm proud to vote conservative in every election, but you can lump everyone into one category if it helps you feel better.

 

[1989]

Assuming the majority of people on any Alberta-related topic vote Liberal is about as intelligent as well, a Conservative who doesn't understand the rights of a private enterprise.

 

[Deen]

Obviously you are part of the system.... In the words of William Wallace "FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM"

 

[joescores]

Obviously you are part of the system.... In the words of William Wallace "FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM"

I am sure his name was William Wallace

 

[Sparky93]

So bars, clubs, and casinos, places that are strictly 18+ adults-only areas which serve alcohol already ban smoking indoors.
Why should a family venue (the Saddledome) which has alcohol service (like restaurants do) continue to allow that behaviour? The University of Calgary's concert venue doesn't allow it. The Jubilee doesn't allow it. Both venues existed before and after the smoking ban took place. Why should the Saddledome become the exception?
Hell, you can't even smoke in Canada Olympic Plaza normally downtown, and that's an open air venue that doesn't serve alcohol at all unless it's a private event with a beer garden.

Furthermore, if you don't want to watch concerts, performers, NHL hockey, that is your right to choose to do so just as it is the right of the venue's ownership/management to establish the rules of their property. It goes both ways - "my roof, my rules", as mom used to say. Try to find a venue that does allow it - there aren't many left in Canada, especially for hockey - and enjoy your entertainment there.

No body said anything about smoking indoors, but if you don’t give smokers a place to go, they will smoke anyways. I’d rather have a place for smokers to go, so that I’m not taking my kids into a smoke filled washroom, walking though butts in every dark corner or have some idiot sneaking a quick vape down the hallway.

 

[Lunatik]

No body said anything about smoking indoors, but if you don’t give smokers a place to go, they will smoke anyways. I’d rather have a place for smokers to go, so that I’m not taking my kids into a smoke filled washroom, walking though butts in every dark corner or have some idiot sneaking a quick vape down the hallway.

Allowing smoking at a venue like the Saddledome could be a liability issue. If they allow it anywhere (even in a pen outside), it still has to be staffed.

 

[Janks]

This thread is hilarious. Nazi Germany and immigration oppression both similar to not being allowed to smoke in a private business.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I’m not sure what’s happening in this thread, nor do I want to know what’s happening in it.

 

[Sparky93]

Allowing smoking at a venue like the Saddledome could be a liability issue. If they allow it anywhere (even in a pen outside), it still has to be staffed.

It’s probably because of the pot legalization

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Obviously you are part of the system.... In the words of William Wallace "FREEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM"

I'm not sure if he's been trolling us and we all fell for it harder than OKG did for Byron/Bennett/Nakladal/etc.

 

[Deen]

This should be a TDIL on Reddit, i'm a fan of a franchise of farmers.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

I agree it seems pretty stupid to allow a very harmful drug that makes people do stupid ass shit in alcohol, while eliminating drugs that are relatively benign in terms of how they change a person’s behaviour like in marijuana or tobacco. But I guess that’s just our alcohol based society sticking to its culturally hegemonic values...

 

[Kahvi]

I agree it seems pretty stupid to allow a very harmful drug that makes people do stupid ass **** in alcohol, while eliminating drugs that are relatively benign in terms of how they change a person’s behaviour like in marijuana or tobacco. But I guess that’s just our alcohol based society sticking to its culturally hegemonic values...

There's one difference between smoking and drinking: you dont get drunk if you sit next to a person drinking, but you do get smoke in you if you sit next to a person smoking.

 

[Lunatik]

There's one difference between smoking and drinking: you dont get drunk if you sit next to a person drinking, but you do get smoke in you if you sit next to a person smoking.

Which could theoretically cost someone their job if they do drug testing

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

There's one difference between smoking and drinking: you dont get drunk if you sit next to a person drinking, but you do get smoke in you if you sit next to a person smoking.

But no one is saying you should be allowed to smoke inside. Smoking inside is disgusting.

I’m not even a smoker. But do I care if other people go out and smoke? No. They pay their taxes so when they get lung cancer and our socialized medicine has to pay for their treatment, our government can afford it.

Trying to get other people to stop smoking while at the same time encouraging and profiting off a more destructive drug, in alcohol, is not only hypocritical, but laughable

 

[Ace Rimmer]

 

[Kahvi]

Which could theoretically cost someone their job if they do drug testing

You don't even have to go that far. Smoking in bars (and other public places) was banned here something like 15 years ago. So I think for 5 years or so I was legal drinking age when smoking in bars was allowed, and every morning you knew you'd been out because all your clothes had this tobacco smell. I only realized after smoking was banned how bad it'd been.

So keep on smoking if you want. I'm all for individual freedom in that sense, just don't make me breath that smoke.

 

[Kahvi]

But no one is saying you should be allowed to smoke inside. Smoking inside is disgusting.

I’m not even a smoker. But do I care if other people go out and smoke? No. They pay their taxes so when they get lung cancer and our socialized medicine has to pay for their treatment, our government can afford it.

Trying to get other people to stop smoking while at the same time encouraging and profiting off a more destructive drug, in alcohol, is not only hypocritical, but laughable

I was writing that as a response to comment that you should be allowed to smoke inside (at Saddledome). Otherwise, I agree. Alcohol use also causes problems to people not using (e.g. domestic violence), with tobacco it's more direct

 

[Anglesmith]

I agree it seems pretty stupid to allow a very harmful drug that makes people do stupid ass **** in alcohol, while eliminating drugs that are relatively benign in terms of how they change a person’s behaviour like in marijuana or tobacco. But I guess that’s just our alcohol based society sticking to its culturally hegemonic values...

On the other hand, smoking is harmful and/or offensive directly to others. That is not true of alcohol.

 

[Calgareee]

Pretty sure this has been a rule at every other NHL venue in Canada for a while...

It’s also a lot different than alcohol. The dome doesn’t smell smokes and doesn’t make any money off it. Unlike alcohol. That’s a lot of dough right there.

Security, staffing, costs and making a clear line prior to legalization of weed probably all play into it as well. Pretty simple though, don’t like the rules, don’t go.