Around the Dome II: Flames hockey-related news and notes

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Deen

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I get the entire no smoking weed thing because it's a family environment, or at least it is supposed to be. I vape though, why in the F do they have to ban that? Basically once you go in to the Dome you are a prisoner. It is morally wrong to not allow people to function in my opinion. They should ban ibuprofen while they're at it. Get ready for the smokiest washrooms ever.
 

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I get the entire no smoking weed thing because it's a family environment, or at least it is supposed to be. I vape though, why in the F do they have to ban that? Basically once you go in to the Dome you are a prisoner. It is morally wrong to not allow people to function in my opinion. They should ban ibuprofen while they're at it. Get ready for the smokiest washrooms ever.
They should build a 12x12 sealed environmentally controlled room inside the dome and call it the "Smoking Lounge". No furniture, just bare walls and cement floors. Perhaps hang some lung cancer photos on the wall. Anybody who wants to smoke can go there.
 

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They should build a 12x12 sealed environmentally controlled room inside the dome and call it the "Smoking Lounge". No furniture, just bare walls and cement floors. Perhaps hang some lung cancer photos on the wall. Anybody who wants to smoke can go there.

The World has gone softer than baby sh*t. Pretty soon the only place you will be able to have fun is in the confines of your own home. Legalizing weed will 100% come with more tickets too as to where and when you can smoke, so that's not even an argument worth making.
 

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I get the entire no smoking weed thing because it's a family environment, or at least it is supposed to be. I vape though, why in the F do they have to ban that? Basically once you go in to the Dome you are a prisoner. It is morally wrong to not allow people to function in my opinion. They should ban ibuprofen while they're at it. Get ready for the smokiest washrooms ever.
That's an extreme exaggeration in many regards. Not being allowed to smoke is the same as being a prisoner? Smoking is necessary in order to function? Talk about being melodramatic.
 

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That's an extreme exaggeration in many regards. Not being allowed to smoke is the same as being a prisoner? Smoking is necessary in order to function? Talk about being melodramatic.

You aren't allowed to leave the dome and re-enter. What would you call that? Freedom is a word I value, I guess you don't.
 

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You aren't allowed to leave the dome and re-enter. What would you call that? Freedom is a word I value, I guess you don't.

You have the freedom to agree or not agree to these terms.

This is very reminiscent of the kids in grade school who would do dumb/harmful stuff and then say "it's a free country."
 
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You aren't allowed to leave the dome and re-enter. What would you call that? Freedom is a word I value, I guess you don't.
So if you leave the dome for a smoke or whatever and you want to get back in what type of security do you go through? Also, how do they know that you're not trying to sneak in for free? Sorry for the perhaps dumb questions but I've never left the dome in the middle of a game and then tried to get back in.
 

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I find it hard to believe that they are only banning it now. Can’t smoke in public buildings in NB for as long as I can remember and it’s great.
 

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I get the entire no smoking weed thing because it's a family environment, or at least it is supposed to be. I vape though, why in the F do they have to ban that? Basically once you go in to the Dome you are a prisoner. It is morally wrong to not allow people to function in my opinion. They should ban ibuprofen while they're at it. Get ready for the smokiest washrooms ever.

Because people who vape are the worst.
 

Deen

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Well despite your chocolate covered fetishes... I for one would like to see people able to do things that are legal under law. This isn't Nazi Germany, why do they think they are entitled to take a persons rights away from them? I understand it's my choice to attend the game or not also.
 
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Honestly, I’m a smoker, that wishes he didn’t. I understand where they’re coming from, increased security, family event, blah, blah, bluh, but that being said I think it’s also fairly hypocritical to say a guy can’t grab a smoke outside in a venue that sells alcohol. Especially at the Dome! I mean goes anyone really need another excuse not to watch a sporting even there? I mean I understand at Rodgers, new rink, new rules but the Dome is what it is. Just seems a little much to me.
 
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Well despite your chocolate covered fetishes... I for one would like to see people able to do things that are legal under law. This isn't Nazi Germany, why do they think they are entitled to take a persons rights away from them? I understand it's my choice to attend the game or not also.

Well, perhaps ironically, it's a matter of freedom. People who own or control places have the freedom to make rules as long as they respect human rights, starting with deciding can and can't be there. Taking that right away would much bigger deal than anything regarding smoking.
 

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Yeah, this has nothing to do with individual rights. You're not being denied entry; you're being granted entry to a private facility subject to the rules you agree to accept when you buy the ticket to the event. Nobody's saying you can't leave, just that once you leave you aren't coming back in. Little bit different than prison.

I remember being unhappy when they converted the stairwells in the nosebleeds from a smoking area to a non smoking area. Yes, that was some time ago. I survived. (Even worse was the hike up and down those stairs as a smoker lol)

If not being able to smoke for ~3 hours is going to ruin your night, maybe that's on you?
 
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Well despite your chocolate covered fetishes... I for one would like to see people able to do things that are legal under law. This isn't Nazi Germany, why do they think they are entitled to take a persons rights away from them? I understand it's my choice to attend the game or not also.
Comparing not allowing someone to smoke for 3 hours to Nazi Germany will definitely make you come off as reasonable. Keep at that argument and see how far you get. :laugh:

You agree to their terms and conditions when attending the game. Simple as that. Its not your right to smoke in their venue, end of story.
 

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Honestly, I’m a smoker, that wishes he didn’t. I understand where they’re coming from, increased security, family event, blah, blah, bluh, but that being said I think it’s also fairly hypocritical to say a guy can’t grab a smoke outside in a venue that sells alcohol. Especially at the Dome! I mean goes anyone really need another excuse not to watch a sporting even there? I mean I understand at Rodgers, new rink, new rules but the Dome is what it is. Just seems a little much to me.
So bars, clubs, and casinos, places that are strictly 18+ adults-only areas which serve alcohol already ban smoking indoors.
Why should a family venue (the Saddledome) which has alcohol service (like restaurants do) continue to allow that behaviour? The University of Calgary's concert venue doesn't allow it. The Jubilee doesn't allow it. Both venues existed before and after the smoking ban took place. Why should the Saddledome become the exception?
Hell, you can't even smoke in Canada Olympic Plaza normally downtown, and that's an open air venue that doesn't serve alcohol at all unless it's a private event with a beer garden.

Furthermore, if you don't want to watch concerts, performers, NHL hockey, that is your right to choose to do so just as it is the right of the venue's ownership/management to establish the rules of their property. It goes both ways - "my roof, my rules", as mom used to say. Try to find a venue that does allow it - there aren't many left in Canada, especially for hockey - and enjoy your entertainment there.
 
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Well despite your chocolate covered fetishes... I for one would like to see people able to do things that are legal under law. This isn't Nazi Germany, why do they think they are entitled to take a persons rights away from them? I understand it's my choice to attend the game or not also.

Think of the Saddledome as someone's house. It's their house, it's their rules. Don't like it, don't go to their house. It's not public property, and that's the biggest misunderstanding you seem to have.

By your logic my inability to go shit on my neighbours lawn without getting in trouble means we live in a Nazi utopia.

If you can't go three hours without vaping, perhaps it's you that has the problem.
 

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Well despite your chocolate covered fetishes... I for one would like to see people able to do things that are legal under law. This isn't Nazi Germany, why do they think they are entitled to take a persons rights away from them? I understand it's my choice to attend the game or not also.

It’s legal under the the law to cover myself in chocolate pudding. I demand to be let into the stadium. Don’t trample on my rights.
 
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Lunatik

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I'm a little late to this party, but why the f*** should vaping be treated any different than smoking? They might claim it has no health risks,but they did that with cigarettes too. In 20-30 years when they have legitimate,conclussiv evidence that vaping is safe, then it should be allowed in public.
 
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Deen

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I prefer intellectualism and freedom. Obviously you Liberals don't understand freedom. Shunning smokers is the same as Trump not letting Immigrants in basically. Hypocritical. Your body, Your choice #MeToo. You already pushed smoker into the concourse around the dome. Now all the air is yours so you can live your perfect lives so that no one else can? Hate to tell you but, those chairs and the Saddledome is filled with mold after the flood.
 
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