Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by ahmedou, Feb 16, 2019.
yea not worried one bit about Romanov extending hes contract in russia,hes coming to NA next summer
Yes, it's looking good...but...Seriously it is looking good.
ELC are always two-way.
It’s little disingenuous to say Romanov only showed offensive ability at the WJC, or that he needs to show more offensive consistency.
He’s been exceptionally good offensively whenever playing against his peers. Last year = 18 points in 22 games for U20 Russia against competition overall slightly higher than the average CHL game. This includes the annual Russia/Canada series where he was glued to the bench because of an injury. He also was a point/game player vs men at the Kaufland Cup.
The only time his offense is limited is in KHL; but that’s to be expected.
How was he in the MHL ?
He didn't play in the MHL last year. Only KHL.
He did, however play in the MHL, and his production wasn't good. He was 75th in the MHL in scoring, he was 9th in points for u18s, and 7th in PPG.
Now, thats solely stats watching, as I haven't watched Romanov at all for the 2018 draft aside from WJAC and WJC-18.
Not what was posted...
You’re citing MHL stats from 2 years ago. What do those gotta do with anything? Players often develop tremendously from year to year. Montreal obviously saw Romanov’s untapped potential and he’s now fulfilling that as he’s taken his offensive game to ridiculous new heights.
If you’re argument is reduced to stat watching from 2 years ago, I’m not sure you have much of an argument.
But this is my whole point, this is what Romanov has shown so far. He has one high value year, and before that, he wasn't a special player, in fact, he was statistically very average.
You're entitled to your opinion, but current projection isn't based upon what a player did 2 years ago. This is why scouts actually watch players and not stat count. Last year if you actually watched Romanov against his peers, on any consistent basis, in no way would you say he's 'unproven' offensively. He was regularly the best offensive dman on the ice for both teams. And his tools going forward are obvious.
I watched every WJC game, thanks for asking. It was 7 games, on the biggest prospect stage in the world, don't act like it's some secret tournament. I'm positive Ive seen more of Romanov than most did, and I'm also positive I have a better grasp of his skillset than most do, but I still cannot say if he could be a top pairing defenseman, because he hasn't proved anything OUTSIDE OF THE SEVEN GAMES HE PLAYED IN THE WJC.
Its not hard to grasp, really.
Summer is unbearable on these boards, it seems.
I’m having difficulty following your reasoning. If Brook is more proven, why did your franchise selected him lower than Romanov?
Brook’s only success is an all-star award at junior level. His play has been woefully insignificant at any level higher than CHL albeit Hlinka, U-18, WJC, AHL; unlike Romanov, he’s proven nothing. Mind you, you’re the one judging prospects on past successes.
You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m just looking for some consistency here.
What does his draft rank one year later have to do with anything?
My opinion is that WJC doesnt mean much. Good players have had bad tourneys before and bad players have had bad tourneys. Josh Brook was used on his off-side last year and he still looked like the best Dman on the canadian squad, no matter what his stats line may suggest. Id rather see a player thrive in league play than be oppurtunistic in tournaments. Now, the actual best is that he does both.
So true and way too common around here.
It was a stupid decision by his coach to play him on his off-side, Brook clearly didn't look the same at LD. In the AHL I'm sure he was a bit wore down at the tail end of a long season as he played 75 games before going to the AHL as last year he didn't even play 60 games due to injury. Also he did play solid but he was on the lowest scoring team in the AHL.
That said if Brook struggles in the AHL this year then there's very legit concern about him.
Reminds me of Brook and his D+1 season two years ago. He was also statistically very, very average
he wasn't as he had an injured wrist that he didn't trust and still put up a .71 ppg, which if he played the full season at that pace would have been 51 pts, which would have tied him for 13th in the WHL for points among defensemen and 4th for U-19 defensmen.
Why was that, pray tell ? What could've influenced his numbers this way?
I remember watching a couple of MHL games from Romanov. He was the only player capable of completing a tape to tape pass. He was positionally dominant, he thought the game at a higher level than the other kids. Also didn't play a lick of PP, his usage was pretty bizarre considering he was head and shoulders above his competition, even Timmins alluded to it during his draft recap in 2018.
I don't think he will be an offensive dynamo type of D, but I wouldn't put too much stock on his production in the MHL.
I watched a few of Romanov's games from the MHL last summer as all of his games were on youtube. The funny thing is I wasn't impressed with his defense but then he goes to the KHL this year and I was very impressed with how mistake free he was most of the time. In the MHL games he kept jumping into the play in the offensive zone, yet in the KHL he didn't which I'm told was because his coach didn't want him to.
It's going to be very interesting to see what kind of season he has, and if the Habs are able to get him over here next summer.
Romanov strength is clearly his skating and mobility and how he plays a physical game! Liked to join the rush sometimes.
Points and production will come and go depending on the talent around him and the opportunity he gets.
I also think Romanov and Brook would be a good pairing
While you guys are arguing between Brook and Romanov, I'm envisioning them as a fantastic pairing one day. Brook brings the dynamic playmaking, while Romanov brings everything else. Think they will complement each other perfectly.
I just really want to know if he's part of the infamous Russian Romanov family. Any Russians on here know if it's a common name?
I don't know who will be better between Brook or Romanov, or Mete or Juulsen for that matter, they are all at least 5 years from their prime.
What I do know is that from what I've seen he seems our most well balanced D prospect in the present.
I think Mete and Brook can play a complementary style to Juulsen/Romanov. The only thing I'd say we are missing there is some big Weber like size.
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