The Winter Soldier
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Sorokin and Pelech say hi. Cizikas says whazzup.I think the problem is, Lou kept all of the Snow led scouts, so typically, they do horrible in rounds 3 & 4, sometimes even in round 1, but especially rounds 3 & 4. Oddly enough, instead of quickly snatching up someone rated higher than their slot, for instance someone rated 85, ok let's snatch him up at 90, they grab someone who MOST LIKELY be there in round 7, they grab him at 90. And in the history of the Milbury/Snow/Lamoriello era, it's NEVER worked out.
I'm ok taking someone rated 80-120 at pick 90, at least they are in the ballpark. Picking someone not rated in the top 250, at 90, is just pure stupidity and arrogance, trying to show you're the smartest guy in the room. Snow and team did that for 12 years, how did that work out ? Unfortunately Lou kept those same scouts, so this is going to happen over and over again.I know we get the yearly scottisms with the draft here, but with all due respect why does anyone care about where players were ranked? That is what got us Reinhart, MDC, and Strome.
3 picks in 20 years.Sorokin and Pelech say hi. Cizikas says whazzup.
Is Guildenstern still on the board?Holmstrom and Ljungkrantz, 2/3rds of the future Swedish Meatball line?
The gritty Swede likes getting to the danger areas. He also battles well along the boards and has a knack for finding seams and getting into space in and around the crease. Additionally, he is a good skater who moves up ice well. His skating is not “elite” but he uses his edges effectively when protecting the puck, when fighting for position, and to get space for himself.
While the man from Gästrikland is not an exceptionally skilled player he has some plus offensive skills. His release is good, and he shoots well in stride or stationary. But he does not have the deftest of touch or the high-end vision to create high-danger chances consistently.
Scouting Report: Alexander Ljungkrantz - Smaht Scouting
I don't know, 6 hours in, I think my mind is on snooze control right now. Sounds like you like him. The rest of the draft is just going to be shoot for the moon and hope you hit. I can see a Goalie being picked. They usually go late.Is Guildenstern still on the board?
If the Islanders only had a brilliant scout like Scott99 running their drafts. Wasted this entire time on an internet message board. 31 teams completely doing it wrong. They should just read stats off hockeydb and ISS rankings.
They're just trolling Butch.
Seriously, I know you’re saying this in jest, but the last 2 years, I think I can do better. Holmstrom and the 2 picks this year, when better talent was available, will be an epic fail just like Cammarata and Leduc and so many others. I seriously don’t know what they are doing. If someone can explain to me why they are taking 7th round players in rounds 3 and 4, I’d be completely receptive to any logic that could make sense. But I doubt there is anything there.If the Islanders only had a brilliant scout like Scott99 running their drafts. Wasted this entire time on an internet message board. 31 teams completely doing it wrong. They should just read stats off hockeydb and ISS rankings.
I was adding up parts of Milbury, 12 years of Snow and 3 years of Lou.Snow was 20 years? f*** me.
None of my comments are in hindsight, they are being made as the garbage is happening. That being said, I can’t put my hat in the ring because I have ZERO experience in the scouting game, at age 58. BUT, unfortunately I’ve been right about some of the horrible picks made, because they are obvious gaffes the moment they happen.I'm not arguing with anyone. I'm just saying you should put your hat in the ring. When you go to speak with an NHL team though, please record it and post how it goes. Specifically when they ask what makes you qualified. I'm not sure they value hindsight as highly as some do around here, though. Just a warning.
I bet you HATED the Chara pick then, right? Also, Reinhart, MDC and Strome were taken right around where the publications predicted them to go, so you were ok with those, right?I'm ok taking someone rated 80-120 at pick 90, at least they are in the ballpark. Picking someone not rated in the top 250, at 90, is just pure stupidity and arrogance, trying to show you're the smartest guy in the room. Snow and team did that for 12 years, how did that work out ? Unfortunately Lou kept those same scouts, so this is going to happen over and over again.
Reinhart, MDC and Strome were selected by Snow and the same scouts we still have.
Nielsen and Nilsson too then. I'm curious, how many legit NHLers do you think most teams got from the 3-4th in those 20 years?3 picks in 20 years.
You might want to buy a vowel.I'm getting my Ljungkrantz jersey ordered tomorrow.
Seriously, I know you’re saying this in jest, but the last 2 years, I think I can do better. Holmstrom and the 2 picks this year, when better talent was available, will be an epic fail just like Cammarata and Leduc and so many others. I seriously don’t know what they are doing. If someone can explain to me why they are taking 7th round players in rounds 3 and 4, I’d be completely receptive to any logic that could make sense. But I doubt there is anything there.
2018, Dobson, Wahlstrom and Wilde were GREAT picks. Highly rated prospects that slid to their draft slots, and they didn’t f*** up by drafting 3rd rounders at 11, 12 & 41. Holmstrom, if he ever winds up being equivalent to a 1st round talent, or better than the guys they passed up, I will print these words and eat them (with ketchup).