Speculation: Alex Pietrangelo Megathread: contract talks with the Blues have stalled.

[Tony Romo]

Canucks should let Markstrom and Tanev walk and go after Pietrangelo.

Sell him on the young promising core and living in one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Shouldnt be hard.

salivating at the thought of Hughes-Pietrangelo top pairing.

That'd be an amazing pairing. good lord.

 

[Colt55]

That'd be an amazing pairing. good lord.

No it wouldn't petro is not a defensive dman. He is a offensive dman. Quinn is only and offensive dman. So you want petro to play pure defense and Quinn be the offfense?

 

[BringTheReign]

This will get done! Posturing by Alex here...but they can't afford to let the guy go.

I don't know, I'd be pretty pissed too if my team traded for and immediately extended two players who combined represent my cap hit but offer less value as players. They're not even younger players with room to grow for that matter.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I don't know, I'd be pretty pissed too if my team traded for and immediately extended two players who combined represent my cap hit but offer less value as players. They're not even younger players with room to grow for that matter.

Really seems like such an obvious unforced error with very minimal upside.

 

[GoldenSeal]

The Blues Captain who WON THE CUP AND HOISTED IT ON BOSTON ICE. Living legend in the STL and a true top 10 scoring DMAN. How do you not sign him? It’s just money and he helped bring home the Cup after 50+ years of cursed nonsense. SIGN HIM.

 

[Hostile Offer]

I've seen more than one 4th line tweener make a beautiful high skilled scoring play, that doesn't mean we can start comparing him to Kane. How often and how consistently they can apply their skills to create offense isn't particularly close, even if Domi can do a lot of the same things Marner can in a vacuum.

Domi's highlight reel on the year is probably shorter than Marner's highlight reel in a month where he's feeling it.

I don't think anyone questions the fact that Marner is the more consistent offensive producer but that doesn't mean that Domi doesn't have a great skill set as well. He is a creative passer and possesses some truly slick hands and agile skating. Calling him "barely a hockey player" in comparison to Marner's skill level is insulting. Domi does not lack skill but he seems to lack determination which is the main reason his points totals dropped this past year.

 

[Em etah Eh]

No it wouldn't petro is not a defensive dman. He is a offensive dman. Quinn is only and offensive dman. So you want petro to play pure defense and Quinn be the offfense?

he’s a stud defensively and his ability to read plays helps him offensively. I wouldn’t call him an offensive defenseman. But Petro is a guy that could play with pretty much anybody. Canucks could bring Coliacavo out of retirement, pair him with Petro and give them the tough assignments and then let Hughes feast off the rest.

As long as Hughes knows to stay back when Petro makes the initial read to jump up in transition, they’d be fine together. Maybe you’d only get 35 pts out of Petro instead of 50, but you’re paying Petro to control games and whatever offense you get is icing on the cake.

 

[Canucks LB]

Toronto imo should trade Marner/Nylander for a package from the wild (Marner would cost more, but wild need a center) for Dumba +, and sign Petro.
Would significantly make the team better.
Just my two cents (If they can fit it under the cap)

 

[Canucks LB]

That'd be an amazing pairing. good lord.

I never thought of that, that would be insane

 

[um]

The Blues Captain who WON THE CUP AND HOISTED IT ON BOSTON ICE. Living legend in the STL and a true top 10 scoring DMAN. How do you not sign him? It’s just money and he helped bring home the Cup after 50+ years of cursed nonsense. SIGN HIM.

The great Justin Faulk was available, they had no choice!

 

[Amadeus]

Toronto imo should trade Marner/Nylander for a package from the wild (Marner would cost more, but wild need a center) for Dumba +, and sign Petro.
Would significantly make the team better.
Just my two cents (If they can fit it under the cap)

Not for Dumba. Those are just better players going out from a Toronto's perspective. I'm open to moving Nylander for that D piece (not Dumba), but not Marner.

Only guys I'd trade Marner for are untouchables in Hughes, Makar, Heiskenen, and Jones. I think there is still untapped potential with Marner and he's already elite.

 

[Notsince67]

It's not close, but you did not answer my question. If you can't recognize that Domi has a ton of skill then I don't know what to say.

I was responding to a proposal of Domi for Marner trade. What is there to say?

 

[Hostile Offer]

I was responding to a proposal of Domi for Marner trade. What is there to say?

Well then you shouldn't have quoted me.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

This is a tough one for the Blues, Pietrangelo is 30. How much and how long do you want to invest in him?

He seems like the type of defender that should age pretty well, so I think it would be best for the Blues to do whatever possible to hang on to him.

I know a lot of Leafs fans want him, but I can't see that happening. Too much money tied up in other areas.

 

[TheDoldrums]

 

[The Winter Soldier]

He seems like the type of defender that should age pretty well, so I think it would be best for the Blues to do whatever possible to hang on to him.

I know a lot of Leafs fans want him, but I can't see that happening. Too much money tied up in other areas.

Maybe he does age better, but it's always a risk. I look at Karlsson, and how quickly he fell off. He's not going to come cheap this is for certain.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Maybe he does age better, but it's always a risk. I look at Karlsson, and how quickly he fell off. He's not going to come cheap this is for certain.

Not sure it's fair to compare EK to AP in the sense that EK was coming off a couple of recent serious leg injuries. His entire game is built on his mobility. AP doesn't have recent injury problems. There will definitely be some dropoff late in a contract with term due to age, but it won't be nearly as early in the deal as EK.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

The Blues window closes if Pietrangelo is gone. It'd be stupid for St. Louis to let him go.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Not sure it's fair to compare EK to AP in the sense that EK was coming off a couple of recent serious leg injuries. His entire game is built on his mobility. AP doesn't have recent injury problems. There will definitely be some dropoff late in a contract with term due to age, but it won't be nearly as early in the deal as EK.

I can agree with that.

 

[Colt55]

The Blues window closes if Pietrangelo is gone. It'd be stupid for St. Louis to let him go.

Yeah thats not true at all. The blues were built as a team not like toronto where they have 4 tremendous players and the rest men. Blues lost thier best goal scorer tarasrnko 10 games into the season still one division. 1 player can fall and the load shifts to other players. Petro missed 10 12 games and parayko stepped up.

I think to say if petro goes so do chances of blues winning is just irrational

 

[Merrrlin]

Yeah thats not true at all. The blues were as a team not a few superstars like toronto. Blues lost thier best goal scorer tarasrnko 10 games into the season still one division. 1 player can fall and the load shifts to other players. Petro missed 10 12 games and parayko stepped up.

I think to say if petro goes so do chances of blues winning is just irrational

God damn man I feel like I just caught a stray

If he went to Vegas, what salary would they move? Once MAF is gone and Lehner signs, they were going to have about 4 million cap space I thought. Maybe move Schmidty?

 

[780il]

Holland needs to step away from the OEL table and make a big offer to Pietrangelo. He’s the exact dman we’ve needed for a decade. If you manage to sign him, Nurse + Neal + pick can be packaged to a team with lots of cap space (NJ/DET/MTL) for a winger to play with Mcdavid. Larsson can also be shipped out for a 3c. Filling the 3 major holes in our roster one after another.

 

[The Duck Knight]

God damn man I feel like I just caught a stray

If he went to Vegas, what salary would they move? Once MAF is gone and Lehner signs, they were going to have about 4 million cap space I thought. Maybe move Schmidty?

Stastny then Marchessault if necessary. Those are guys we have in house replacements for with Glass and Tuch. Moving Schmidt would just create another hole. We need Petro to play WITH Schmidt.

 

[BB88]

Tough to see Toronto without trading one of their core players.

Otherwise they have 7 guys taking 60 million, not including starting goaltender

 

[Merrrlin]

Stastny then Marchessault if necessary. Those are guys we have in house replacements for with Glass and Tuch. Moving Schmidt would just create another hole. We need Petro to play WITH Schmidt.

March I could see, but I don't think the return would be very good for Stastny.

Tough to see Toronto without trading one of their core players.

Otherwise they have 7 guys taking 60 million, not including starting goaltender

100% would require Marner or Nylander dealt, and likely others as well.

I am not sold on bringing him in, to be honest. If the COVID never happened, sure, but now?