OT: 83rd Obsequious Banter Thread: Balls to the Wall

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The issue is that they had all of two clinical trials one of which showed some benefit and another that showed no benefit at all. So it is not conclusive that the drug is safe or effective for that matter. If you read the transcript of the interview I posted or listen to it this is a key part...

And as far as between the doc and patient more like between the doc and pharma rep...lol


So the cost benefit analysis will really be done in the next 3-5 years...hopefully not too many people will be "butthurt"...
They didn't have "all but" 2 clinical trials. The 2 clinical trials everyone is talking about are the pivotal trials which are the studies submitted to the FDA for approval. There were phase 1 trial(s) on healthy people before that for dose floors and ceilings and safety and pharmacokinetics, phase 2 trial(s) for efficacy, and the two largest, most robust phase 3 trials for safety and efficacy which are used as the pivotal trials. This is normal drug development.

Yes, it boils down to risk vs benefit. Which is what healthcare in general boils down to. But again, you have to start somewhere with an orphan drug/disease. This to me, in my expertish (that is, non-neuro-specialist) opinion, is a fine place to start.

The nature of Alzheimers is prospective anyway. These patients will need to be followed, and I hope to see this drug given to early stage patients in a phase 4 trial post-approval, which some medications also are subject to
 
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They didn't have "all but" 2 clinical trials. The 2 clinical trials everyone is talking about are the pivotal trials which are the studies submitted to the FDA for approval. There were phase 1 trial(s) on healthy people before that for dose floors and ceilings and safety, phase 2 trial(s) for efficacy, and the two largest, most robust phase 3 trials for safety and efficacy which are used as the pivotal trials. This is normal drug development.

Yes, it boils down to risk vs benefit. Which is what healthcare in general boils down to. But again, you have to start somewhere with an orphan drug/disease. This to me, in my expertish (that is, non-neuro-specialist) opinion, is a fine place to start.

The nature of Alzheimers is prospective anyway. These patients will need to be followed, and I hope to see this drug given to early stage patients in a phase 4 trial post-approval, which some medications also are subject to
There is another variable FDA doesn't get involved with ..cost to Medicare, Medicaid/states based on the drug's cost. Why drug prices need to be negotiated like the VA does..

The Drug That Could Break American Health Care
 

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There is another variable FDA doesn't get involved with ..cost to Medicare, Medicaid/states based on the drug's cost. Why drug prices need to be negotiated like the VA does..

The Drug That Could Break American Health Care

Not everyone with Alzheimer's will be prescribed this drug. This "worst case scenario" is just fearmongering. Besides, many times there are manufacturer related relief programs for these very expensive medications. The funny part about this is it just goes to show, once again, how broken the American "healthcare" "system" is.
 

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My wife helped the gremlin make a menu so that she could cook us meals in her toy kitchen. The menu was made on Paw Patrol paper, so I ordered a broiled pup as a joke last night.

Just now, after picking her up from daycare, she offers me broiled pup out of the blue. :laugh:

I regret nothing.
Did she source the meat from beef's in-laws?
 

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Holy shit.

The in-laws are putting down their lab tomorrow. It is time. Beefette explains this to The Child. She tells Meatbelle that the dogs body is broken, so a vet is coming to make her feel better but it means she will die and we won't see her again.

This f***ing savage ponders it and replies, "Can I see her broken body?"
My friend's daughter is just like this and I love her to death. She apparently leaned over to her mom a day or two ago and whispered "I can feel my tender meat under my skin.". Can't wait to see her today but hope she doesn't step on my mangled toes while getting literally up in my face and asking me about my flaws.
 

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You guys want to see the weirdest bathroom ever?

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This is the kind of bathroom you find after you open a Hellraiser box and wander through the door.
I’m in awe of just about everything. The yellow tile that looks like leaky piss, the stacks of tp over the toilets, the sink that looks like it used to double as a urinal trough, the f***ing window. It’s a masterpiece. I refuse to believe that it was created by human hands.
 

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I’m in awe of just about everything. The yellow tile that looks like leaky piss, the stacks of tp over the toilets, the sink that looks like it used to double as a urinalysis trough, the f***ing window. It’s a masterpiece. I refuse to believe that it was created by human hands.

It was built in Tiger Pants' home state. This is how people like him do
 

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I’m in awe of just about everything. The yellow tile that looks like leaky piss, the stacks of tp over the toilets, the sink that looks like it used to double as a urinal trough, the f***ing window. It’s a masterpiece. I refuse to believe that it was created by human hands.


Not saying it was aliens but yeah aliens
 
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Unfortunately I haven’t seen this monstrosity in person, I found it on Twitter.



My favorite part is the double toilet stall without doors, while the wide open bathroom door — for any passersby — peers down upon them. But not only that: both of those toilets have urine in them on the video. So, someone chose to use each of those most public of public toilets and then not even flush. Who are those people? I use the word “people” loosely.
 

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My favorite part is the double toilet stall without doors, while the wide open bathroom door — for any passersby — peers down upon them. But not only that: both of those toilets have urine in them on the video. So, someone chose to use each of those most public of public toilets. Who are those people?
If I was there, I would totally use the creepy toilet at the bottom of the stairs.
 
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