GDT: #76: FLYERS at Capitals, Sunday, March 24, 2019, 12:30 p.m. ET

Beef Invictus

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So is everyone super happy now that the flyers went on a useless run and totally destroyed their draft position? Next time shut the **** up when guys are saying that a tank is probably a good idea when the team is last in December.


Yes, getting rid of Hakstol and learning Hart is an NHL goalie is far superior to tanking for a player we won't get. Tanking is for losers. I'm glad they showed some fight instead of rolling over like sad little bitches. Sanheim, Patrick, Myers, and Hart improving is worth more than a pick.
 

LegionOfDoom91

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Even when Giroux scored at the rate of a 4th liner two years ago we weren’t bad enough to be a bottom ten team let alone a bottom five team.

This team just isn’t bad enough to be in that range just as they aren’t good enough to be a consistent playoff team at this point.

Also at no point during this whole ordeal has management actively tried to do what they could in hopes of increasing the chances of losing which is the real definition of tanking.
 

Striiker

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The fact that Gordon thinks playing Morin lessens their chances of winning, despite all the time he’s coached and watched Hagg, just further proves he has absolutely no clue what he’s doing.

Hakstol v2

How can any human being think that Hagg-Gudas pair can’t be improved? Or that it’s OK to CONSTANTLY have them with out top forwards?
 

BiggE

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There’s no difference between playing him next game or third to fourth last game when finally mathematically eliminated.

You could even go with 7 defensemen if you please since your fourth line consists entirely of AHLer’s.

JFC, JUST DIE ALREADY MIMSY, YOU USELESS PIECE OF DESSICATED MONKEY CRAP!!!!
 

Striiker

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In case anyone doesn't want to do the math...

Even strength TOI:

Sanheim - 21:35
Provorov - 21:32
Gudas - 14:22
Ghost - 13:55
Hagg - 13:10
Myers 13:07

Absolutely disgusting and inexcusable. Ghost and Myers way too little, Provorov way too much, Hagg being on the ice at all is indefensible.

As for the forwards, TK and Patrick are still being underused for no reason.
 

Beef Invictus

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The fact that Gordon thinks playing Morin lessens their chances of winning, despite all the time he’s coached and watched Hagg, just further proves he has absolutely no clue what he’s doing.

Hakstol v2

How can any human being think that Hagg-Gudas pair can’t be improved? Or that it’s OK to CONSTANTLY have them with out top forwards?


Hogg is hockey-guy kryptonite. The exact perfect recipe for being grotesquely overrated by coaches and GMs. Manning was the same way, hence why he managed to be desired by two more teams. Likewise for Rinaldo.
 
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Striiker

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Hogg is hockey-guy kryptonite. The exact perfect recipe for being grotesquely overrated by coaches and GMs. Manning was the same way, hence why he managed to be desired by two more teams. Likewise for Rinaldo.
A nice example of how toughness gets overvalued, when it really has nearly none. None of these players prevent injury or add positive value to the team.

Skill, smarts, and speed are what win games.
 

Flyrs21

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For everyone that says they should of tanked...... the 5th worst team in the nhl has a 8.5% chance to win the first overall pick. This team was never going to be a bottom 5 team
 
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Striiker

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For everyone that says they should of tanked...... the 5th worst team in the nhl has a 8.5% chance to win the first overall pick. This team was never going to be a bottom 5 team
Having Hakstol and Gordon as coaches this year is the most hardcore form of tanking possible.

There's nothing else they could have done, short of trading away their best players, which I assume even the pro-tank guys aren't stupid enough to want.
 

Flyrs21

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In case anyone doesn't want to do the math...

Even strength TOI:

Sanheim - 21:35
Provorov - 21:32
Gudas - 14:22
Ghost - 13:55
Hagg - 13:10
Myers 13:07

Absolutely disgusting and inexcusable. Ghost and Myers way too little, Provorov way too much, Hagg being on the ice at all is indefensible.

As for the forwards, TK and Patrick are still being underused for no reason.
You would think a guy with two 20+ goal seasons in his first 3 seasons would be used more in the right situations
 
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Striiker

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You would think a guy with two 20+ goal seasons in his first 3 seasons would be used more in the right situations
Just think how many he would have scored if he was used properly all year...

Last year he scored 24 goals, when only with Giroux and Couts for half the year and averaging 14:54 per game
This year he's scored 22, when screwed with all over the lineup and averaging 15:09 per game.

He'd likely have two 30 goal years already, if used properly.
 

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