Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[GCK]

Pageau is extremely fast and excellent skater all-around. If Rossi had his speed I'd have no troubles selecting him 3rd.

With Rossi the issue isn't just a question of size. It's also speed. You have to have excellent speed to be an excellent contributor down the middle like Point, Briere, Tyler Johnson etc. You can be a bit slower and still be successful but you'll have to be a winger at that point.

Where did you get the impression Pageau was extremely fast. He was no burner.

 

[GCK]

Rossi's height matters little at the OHL level because he is pretty much already fully developed physically. He has tremendous lower body strength due to being a gym rat and lanky undeveloped OHLers have a hard time knocking him off the puck, even though he's very short.

When the players are men and are fully developed physically, he's going to have a harder time protecting and controlling the puck.

That's not to say he can't be successful because of his height at the NHL level, but he probably will have to adjust his game somewhat.

Ask Kevin Bahl how easy he is to knock off the puck in drills.

 

[Johnny Hanson]

Pageau is extremely fast and excellent skater all-around. If Rossi had his speed I'd have no troubles selecting him 3rd.

With Rossi the issue isn't just a question of size. It's also speed. You have to have excellent speed to be an excellent contributor down the middle like Point, Briere, Tyler Johnson etc. You can be a bit slower and still be successful but you'll have to be a winger at that point.

So wait, you think that Pageau is an “extremely fast and excellent all-around skater” but don’t think that Rossi can skate? Have you watched either of them play?

 

[supsens]

Was Briere not a top 6 C when he scored 95 pts for the Sabres?
Brayden Point is listed at 5'10 165 .. I'm sure that 1 more inch and 15 less lbs make a world of difference
and on that 1 inch... it could be less than that.

Cliff Ronning! The sens seem to be building a large hardworking team, I would be shocked if they draft a little guy

 

[SensFan1010]

I think dysdale is a bit underrated. Look how well he preformed in the WJ as an underager.

I would he happy with any combo or stutzle/byfield at 3 and raymond/dysdale at 5. And i do believe rossi will be a great nhler but would be a big mistake drafting him above these two

 

[DJB]

Pageau is extremely fast and excellent skater all-around. If Rossi had his speed I'd have no troubles selecting him 3rd.

With Rossi the issue isn't just a question of size. It's also speed. You have to have excellent speed to be an excellent contributor down the middle like Point, Briere, Tyler Johnson etc. You can be a bit slower and still be successful but you'll have to be a winger at that point.

I agree. His speed is definitely a step behind Pageau'a and that's where most of the concern lies with him. Height and a lack of speed are concerning, but man I do love his hockey sense!

 

[BondraTime]

I think Rossi is a fair bet to be a 20-40/45 guy, and that’s a very, very good player. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him hit a point a game season over his career.

 

[Laphroaig]

An interesting fact. There hasn’t been a top 6 center at 5’9 or under for 40 years (Rossi). The last one was Marcel Dionne.

Tyler Johnson is 5'8''. He scored 72 points in 77 games in the 14-15 season. Pretty sure that makes him a top 6 centre.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

So wait, you think that Pageau is an “extremely fast and excellent all-around skater” but don’t think that Rossi can skate? Have you watched either of them play?

Pageaus skating is much better than Rossi’s. Not even a question

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Too slow and too small... Seems to me we've heard that before about a prospect that ended up being a pretty good player.

 

[GCK]

Pageaus skating is much better than Rossi’s. Not even a question

That is not true at all. Both are similar top end, Pageau likely has a quicker 1st step but Rossi is stronger on his skates and doesn’t get pushed off much

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Too slow and too small... Seems to me we've heard that before about a prospect that ended up being a pretty good player.

Who?

 

[armani]

Who?

Sticks and ____ may break my bones.

 

[milkbag]

Who?

I'm pretty sure he's talking about Karlsson? That guy had a child-sized body when we drafted him. Or maybe Formenton, wasn't he the one that grew something absurd like 6 inches after we drafted him?

 

[Dingleberry]

I'm pretty sure he's talking about Karlsson? That guy had a child-sized body when we drafted him. Or maybe Formenton, wasn't he the one that grew something absurd like 6 inches after we drafted him?

Neither those guys were slow though. And Stone was not small.

Maybe Hoffman?

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Karlsson?

that dudes skating was elite since day 1.

 

[Sensinitis]

Rossi screams Brayden Point to me.

 

[GCK]

Rossi screams Brayden Point to me.

I think his style will be more Adam Oates or Nick Backstrom.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Rossi's lower body strength makes up for his size. He's not easy to knock off the puck.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Raymond is only one inch taller than Rossi and nearly 15 pounds lighter. So guys if we’re talking about size.....

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Rossi's lower body strength makes up for his size. He's not easy to knock off the puck.

He’s legit as wide as two other prospects. And it’s extremely noticeable especially live you’re like who’s that little block skating around the ice.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Raymond is only one inch taller than Rossi and nearly 15 pounds lighter. So guys if we’re talking about size.....

Lack of size is less glaring when you're among the fastest skaters in the draft, like in Raymond's case.

But as discussed above, Rossi makes up for it with his lower body strength.

 

[SensFactor]

Rossi screams Brayden Point to me.

Reminds me of Nik Backstrom and Pavel Datsyuk mix. He is not slow by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Lack of size is less glaring when you're among the fastest skaters in the draft, like in Raymond's case.

But as discussed above, Rossi makes up for it with his lower body strength.

There’s this thing around that Rossi isn’t a great skater. He’s a good skater.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Sticks and ____ may break my bones.

Naw he’s not small at all