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Post-Game Talk: #4| Tampa Bay Lightning @ New York Islanders | September 13th | 3:00 PM | F/L 4-1
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I don’t know
The first game was a product of a tough seven game series and travel
The series turned on the inability in game 2 to convert on the pp
Win that game, series is 1-1
Different seties
I dont care how bad Eberle has been, it could be literally the worst game of his life and with a playoff game on the line I take him over Ross Johnston every single time without even a second thought.
Not sure what to make of Johnston's usage... he had 5 shifts in the first, 3 in the second, 2 in the third, and not only did he look noticeable in the offensive end, I didn't see any big mistakes, and he wasn't on the ice for any of TB's goals.
At least Lee looks like he’s trying
I’m not a Lee fan, thought/think the contract was a mistake
But Eberle is a negative, forget points scored, when he’s on the ice he’s a liability. Not a lot fight in that dog this series
See why Edmonton soured on him
To be fair, he doesn’t belong on anyone’s top line, if he was playing middle six wing where he belongs, maybe his play would be better
Agreed
Barry playing Ladd the other night and his use of Johnson today, to me don’t make sense. I also think, today he over used the 4th line
Strength of this team has been depth, rolling lines. Johnson was not hurting the team when he played, roll your lines Barry
Eberle must be playing through an injury- there is nobody to replce him, so ebs at 50% is likely better than sticking someone else on the line who would be totally out of place.
it was only a year ago when he was a hero in the playoffs and played out of his mind
Except your sitting Greene and Toews , who are lefties and you’re looking to add 2 righties. One a rookie, the other hasn’t played in a month, in a do or die game
If I had a choice, we are taking out Greene and Mayfield. We need physicality in the crease and speed. Boychuk is more physical than Greene and Dobson is faster than Mayfield.
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Those "ifs" are no longer draft picks - they are a lot closer to panning out than not.
Last year is last year
This series, injured or healthy, he’s hurting the team. Move Tito up, if Eberle can’t create offense, and he hasn’t, he’s not helping
Uncle Duke
Heads up, fellas!
Yup, I floated Ebs with Pageau the other day. Hate to do that to Pageau but maybe they can find some chemistry. In any event, he's going to be here for a while so BT has to find a way to make him useful, problem is that he can't do anything besides score and now he can't even do that.
You gotta think maybe Boychuk is not 100% otherwise we would have seen him already....
Richie Daggers Crime
Boosted 9 times double masked they/them
Dobson isn't an NHL player right now. Stop it.
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High-Level Mediocrity? Realistic chances?
What the f*** are you talking about?
You (and your partner over there) are like bad sports radio personalities - the banter and moreover the logic are just... what's the word I'm looking for... oh, yeah - stupid. Do you work FAN?
Do you know how infuriating it is to read anything in hindsight about a rebuild after JT left? Is there any mindfulness in these posts?
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I think I understand what you were talking about. In short, it was about whether it was worth to rebuild in 2018 or 2019 instead of being 1-2 rounds deep every year without winning the cup. My suggestion was to keep this discussion for the off-season.
Uncle Duke
Heads up, fellas!
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No, I don't get it.
We are closer to winning the cup than we ever have been that is FACT and not some bullshit pipe dream. And to muse that the Isles would have been in a better position if they would have rebuilt (like rebuilding is a guarantee) is utterly f***ing ridiculous. A rebuild is more imagination and hopeful what "ifs"
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Uncle Duke
Heads up, fellas!
You nailed it and I agree. Miracles can happen, particularly if Point is going to be out and it sure looked a strong possibility, and we have played them tough.
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You ain't popular champ.
Uncle Duke
Heads up, fellas!
Even if they somehow win this series they'd be screwed in the final. I believe two teams went to the final playing 7 in the semis and conference finals and both lost in 5
I think top D pairing should not be 2 shut down D, but one elite shut down D with an elite skilled D who can skate well.
I agree with trading Pulock but it should be done after signing him to a good contract (without any clause) as that will return more as the uncertainty with the contract can diminish his trade value. Trade for a LD or a fast 2nd/3rd line young Power forward who played well in junior and is on the borderline of making the NHL consistently. I will trade him to Anaheim for one of the following and add a 3rd round pick to balance the trade:
check with Anaheim to land one of the following for cap room to add on line 3 or line 4:
- LW Max Comtois (known in junior for his high goal-scoring %, extremely competitive & plays on edge & like to hit, need to improve skating though) - he is more than capable of replacing Martin who may not come back next season or could be very good to play on line # 3 with 44 (unless Bellows come through next season)
- LW Sunny Milano (a speedy scoring forwards played multiple times on US Olympic game, from Long Island, size may be a concern), this can add some speed & scoring, especially good for PP
- LW Max Jones (has a lot of overall good tools, just need to play the game with higher intensity)
Try to beat other teams (especially in Metro) to one of these 3 LWs on the Anaheim team. There is no way Anaheim will keep all 3 as they also have high draft entry picks this year and already have Rakall and Heinen as LW on the roster.
I would love Sam Steele but as Isles now has good center depth I do not think I will do that unless he can convert to LW and Anaheim is thin at centre depth.
Whoever can learn or have done enough pk & can win face-off with among the 3 will be a bonus.
Next, try to trade either Leddy or Toews with a B prospect (Isles have a lot of these) to Blues for Dunn (who will be an RFA this coming season). May have to take a little bit salary back though if Leddy is the to be moved. The ultimate long term goal is to keep homegrown talent like 13, 18, 8, Wilde, and Sorokin (in addition to 29 and 12 already signed long term) as the future core and hope Wilde, Wahlstrom, Bellows, and Holmstrom will fulfill their potentials. This means that Isles need to make some tough choices now.
Why trading Pulock? Isles has too many young RD talents and he is the most tradable asset with Dobson being untouchable. Somehow you need to clear that log jam on the right side. Plus for now, Mayfield is a decent bottom 6 and his contract value is very good for what he can bring. JB if he continue to have bad injuries keep him out of much of the season, I can see that he may think about early retirement or get bought out by the management.
Who has no movement clause on the top 6 besides 13, 12, 29 and 18? Maybe leave one of them exposed in the Seattle draft as you need to keep 44, and another key veteran bottom 6 players.
Who in the D group has NMV or NTC beside JB?
Also I suggest Isles get bold and go hard after Hall this summer (who was the best man at Eberle's wedding). With the speed of both 13 and Hall, they can out skate any other speedy team's top line in the East. Use the money for resigning Pulock on Hall. If you land Hall, then you move Pulock for a cheap young LW on Anaheim.
I agree with trading Pulock but it should be done after signing him to a good contract (without any clause) as that will return more as the uncertainty with the contract can diminish his trade value. Trade for a LD or a fast 2nd/3rd line young Power forward who played well in junior and is on the borderline of making the NHL consistently. I will trade him to Anaheim for one of the following and add a 3rd round pick to balance the trade:
check with Anaheim to land one of the following for cap room to add on line 3 or line 4:
- LW Max Comtois (known in junior for his high goal-scoring %, extremely competitive & plays on edge & like to hit, need to improve skating though) - he is more than capable of replacing Martin who may not come back next season or could be very good to play on line # 3 with 44 (unless Bellows come through next season)
- LW Sunny Milano (a speedy scoring forwards played multiple times on US Olympic game, from Long Island, size may be a concern), this can add some speed & scoring, especially good for PP
- LW Max Jones (has a lot of overall good tools, just need to play the game with higher intensity)
Try to beat other teams (especially in Metro) to one of these 3 LWs on the Anaheim team. There is no way Anaheim will keep all 3 as they also have high draft entry picks this year and already have Rakall and Heinen as LW on the roster.
I would love Sam Steele but as Isles now has good center depth I do not think I will do that unless he can convert to LW and Anaheim is thin at centre depth.
Whoever can learn or have done enough pk & can win face-off with among the 3 will be a bonus.
Next, try to trade either Leddy or Toews with a B prospect (Isles have a lot of these) to Blues for Dunn (who will be an RFA this coming season). May have to take a little bit salary back though if Leddy is the to be moved. The ultimate long term goal is to keep homegrown talent like 13, 18, 8, Wilde, and Sorokin (in addition to 29 and 12 already signed long term) as the future core and hope Wilde, Wahlstrom, Bellows, and Holmstrom will fulfill their potentials. This means that Isles need to make some tough choices now.
Why trading Pulock? Isles has too many young RD talents and he is the most tradable asset with Dobson being untouchable. Somehow you need to clear that log jam on the right side. Plus for now, Mayfield is a decent bottom 6 and his contract value is very good for what he can bring. JB if he continue to have bad injuries keep him out of much of the season, I can see that he may think about early retirement or get bought out by the management.
Who has no movement clause on the top 6 besides 13, 12, 29 and 18? Maybe leave one of them exposed in the Seattle draft as you need to keep 44, and another key veteran bottom 6 players.
Who in the D group has NMV or NTC beside JB?
Also I suggest Isles get bold and go hard after Hall this summer (who was the best man at Eberle's wedding). With the speed of both 13 and Hall, they can out skate any other speedy team's top line in the East. Use the money for resigning Pulock on Hall. If you land Hall, then you move Pulock for a cheap young LW on Anaheim.
