Jacob
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Well, 4 is more than your 1 example.Four players drafted over a spread of 15 years?!?
Some counter point...
The fact is the leagues are all quite close nowadays in all facets.
Well, 4 is more than your 1 example.Four players drafted over a spread of 15 years?!?
Some counter point...
You’re citing exceptions not the rules...and you’re statement about WHL defensemen is flat out wrong...just look at this year’s draft...the Q is fodder for the small handful of relatively skilled forwards who are rostered...it’s why a kid like Sprong - who will never have a 200’ game - stands out...
Counterpoint's one word, chief. I mean, if you want to be pedantic, best to get it right.
All the other people who hit like understand the rather obvious point.
People clamouring on about how good or bad Poulin is/will be are people throwing darts blind.
Bickering about his speed or overall outlook is pointless considering most of us have never seen this kids play, outside a few highlight packages.
Well, 4 is more than your 1 example.
The fact is the leagues are all quite close nowadays in all facets.
Q teams are 8-1 against WHL teams in the last 4 Mem Cups, a streak that involves 5 different Q teams and 6 different WHL teams. That's a lot of exceptions. And teams in the Q average a whopping 0.2 goals per game more than WHL teams (3.46 vs 3.26), so I guess if they play no D, WHL teams aren't much better. As for size, a 2015 analysis found that the median height was actually shorter in the WHL (72 inches) than in the OHL and Q (73 inches). Basically, all 3 leagues are very similar in size.
It's crazy how long these stereotypes, which are at least 15 years out of date, last in people's minds
This is true, but the OHL and WHL have more teams and therefore more players, though the discrepancy seems a bit off since the OHL is in the middle of the total number of teams but has the most players in the NHL (or did in October).Among the upper echelons of Junior Hockey the Q has been, and remains, underrepresented on NHL rosters.
The old stereotype was that the Q was run and gun with no defense, like you said, which meant they developed goalies better than the other junior leagues. So if they're not developing goalies, to me that'd mean the style is more even across the board.1 goalie chosen from the Q this year...of the 4 defensemen...one was from Europe and the other originally from Australia...
So essentially, message boards serve no purpose in your mind.
If “I” want to be pedantic, Miss Marples?
Normally, I would correct it; because it’s you, I won’t.
Powerful boomer burn, I feel myself slowly turning into Matlock reruns as I'm being forcibly syndicated against my will.
This is true, but the OHL and WHL have more teams and therefore more players, though the discrepancy seems a bit off since the OHL is in the middle of the total number of teams but has the most players in the NHL (or did in October).
The old stereotype was that the Q was run and gun with no defense, like you said, which meant they developed goalies better than the other junior leagues. So if they're not developing goalies, to me that'd mean the style is more even across the board.
Among the upper echelons of Junior Hockey the Q has been, and remains, underrepresented on NHL rosters. The Pens have 2 players with QMJHL pedigree...none since Letang have made much of an impact...Dupois wasn’t even drafted...the premier and only player of note drafted out of the Q that year was Roberto Luongo...
I hope that post passed the Grammar Police...
1 goalie chosen from the Q this year...of the 4 defensemen...one was from Europe and the other originally from Australia...
Absolutely.Stylistically he reminds of Draisaitl. Draisaitl wasn’t the greatest skater when he got drafted either. Not saying he has the ability of Draisaitl, but skating stride and shot reminds of him.
82 QMJHL players were on opening night NHL rosters last year. That's compared to 156 OHL, 137 WHL and 128 USHL. While certainly fewer, it's not exactly an obscure source of talent.
Some notable Q alumni include MacKinnon, Hischier, Bergeron, Marchand, Chabot, Dubois, Mantha, Huberdeau, Drouin, Couturier, Giroux, Voracek, Radulov, Marchessault, Ehlers, Radulov, Hoffman, Brassard, Perron, Vlasic...
Oh, and I think the Penguins have a guy or two from the Q.
The league is more than capable of producing top talent.
Edit: Even Kucherov spent some time there.
Who have we ever got from the QMJHL that was any good?
First impressions were impressive last night seeing Poulin. He came as advertised. He showed the best hands and vision of any of the prospects last night. Was kinda surprised there wasn't more positive buzz about his play from those watching online. At times he tried to do a bit too much, and it didn't always work, but he flashed a lot of skill, and smarts. But maybe the view didn't translate well to what could be seen live and up close in person. He has a good shot. He first trip down the ice he let go a sweet shot that hit the bar. And was also denied a few times as D'Orio played very well in game 1. His skating was good, Definitely no issues there.
I feel like skating is such a hard thing to analyze with young players, especially since I was a bit of a bender myself when I played, so I have absolutely no technique to judge from. You want to talk about agitating though, and I'm an expert.
How do you think Poulin used his size, TD? You know how much I'm pulling for us to get "a warhorse with hands of silk", to use the old Earl Mann quote about Artie.
Good question. In the scrimmage, with the 3 on 3, positions were basically meaningless. Forward or D, you are just all over the ice.What side is he playing on in camp, his off-wing or left? He is listed as both.
Good question. In the scrimmage, with the 3 on 3, positions were basically meaningless. Forward or D, you are just all over the ice.