To Voronkov. Don't forget he needs to get used to the speed, much like Marchenko did last year. This is his second game. He should be much better in camp in my opinion.
Or when injuries happen around HalloweenI was thinking Svozil was going to be my "hot take" making the team out of training camp but starting to look like it might be Dumais. Granted we have so many wingers so that's gonna be much harder to do but I am seeing someone who could be ready to play or at-least burn a year on ELC to play his games and get him into the AHL. That Malatesta (Which looked great himself and will be a top 6 in Cleveland this year) - Fantilli - Dumais line was buzzing and almost NHL level competence.
Just to note the defense was concerning to me though Cuelmans, Jiricek and Mateychuck all had their moments I don't think Jiricek is ready to play 1-2RHD role yet. Let him cook in Cleveland a bit longer and get that defensive game fixed up, especially on the rush. We have 4 RHDs anyways so lets figure out that mess first while keeping him in the oven. Speaking of time in the oven our big Russian needs the Marchenko treatment, just get him used to the game and bring him up when injuries start to happen around Thanksgiving.
After last season I told myself never speak those evils into existence so I stand by with what I say haha.Or when injuries happen around Halloween
We better find a way to keep him away from the Canadian pop stars.Fantilli should be our top center immediately.
Holmstrom also played 1st line. And I don't think he was Crosby, metaphorically speaking. Someone has to do the dirty work.I don't think using offensive upside or offensive skills as a negative to Voronkov is fair. He's not a skill player, he's very much a meat and potatoes guy with some finishing ability. 3rd line upside.
To Voronkov. Don't forget he needs to get used to the speed, much like Marchenko did last year. This is his second game. He should be much better in camp in my opinion.
We'll see at camp.Much like Marchenko, he might need to get into it in AHL for a bit. All the tools are there, just needs to adjust to the NA game
That's a pretty lofty expectation...They have Jenner,Roslovic,Kuraly,LFoudy and CSillinger (if he can figure out he has to work)ahead of young Fantilli on the Depth chart! Now I know Adam has it all and maybe BlueJackets top pivot in no time but for now...he'll have to earn and I'm sure Babcock will handle things his way...PS There is talk that Laine will go to Centre or at least try itRay he is so far beyond the "NHL ready" mark, it's not even a question. He's going to be better than a 3rd liner immediately, I think likely the Blue Jackets top center immediately.
If you think any of those players except maybe Jenner are ahead of Fantilli at this point is just poor evaluation on your part honestly. Sillinger and Foudy? 4th liner Kuraly has you worried? Roslovic who I doubt even plays center this year? You are just naming centers and not taking talent into equation, its not a seniority positionThat's a pretty lofty expectation...They have Jenner,Roslovic,Kuraly,LFoudy and CSillinger (if he can figure out he has to work)ahead of young Fantilli on the Depth chart! Now I know Adam has it all and maybe BlueJackets top pivot in no time but for now...he'll have to earn and I'm sure Babcock will handle things his way...PS There is talk that Laine will go to Centre or at least try it
That's a pretty lofty expectation...They have Jenner,Roslovic,Kuraly,LFoudy and CSillinger (if he can figure out he has to work)ahead of young Fantilli on the Depth chart! Now I know Adam has it all and maybe BlueJackets top pivot in no time but for now...he'll have to earn and I'm sure Babcock will handle things his way...PS There is talk that Laine will go to Centre or at least try it
I guess we'll see how things shake out and it is actually a Senority thing or rather what role the player takes! You guys probably think Fantilli is the next Anze Kopi-Star! Being a dominate College player doesn't guarantee NHL successIf you think any of those players except maybe Jenner are ahead of Fantilli at this point is just poor evaluation on your part honestly. Sillinger and Foudy? 4th liner Kuraly has you worried? Roslovic who I doubt even plays center this year? You are just naming centers and not taking talent into equation, its not a seniority position
I guess we'll see how things shake out and it is actually a Senority thing or rather what role the player takes! You guys probably think Fantilli is the next Anze Kopi-Star! Being a dominate College player doesn't guarantee NHL success
My argument is that Fantilli is not Man Strong yet and would have benefited from another year training and developing that Strength he's going to need it! He could have,should have followed the model adopted by Matty Berniers! Who do the BJackets want Fantilli to become? Jean Beliveau or Doug Wickenheiser?It's the skillset Ray, the skillset!
We're not sitting here counting his college points.
Interesting, I don't see major problems with how he processes the game offensively. I think his off-puck game is fine and in general makes good reads with the puck in oz. The thing I worry about is the speed, he didn't look quick on the forecheck and was stripped off the puck by Wings' backcheckers a couple of times. If he didn't have Fantilli on the same line I think they would have spent much more time chasing pucks in the defensive end.Voronkov - AHL-bound, and it might take him longer than we think. He's big and he battles (and hits) but I'm not seeing the same kind of offensive mind from him that we see in Fantilli, Dumais, Malatesta... His passes don't connect as often or they are a foot too long/short. That between the legs blind pass was nice but that's about it.
There's definitely potential to be at least a Sam Gagner type PP specialist for a few years.Dumais is such a damn good passer and finisher, I think he's going to make it.
I'd be fine with that, Svozil would sit as well if it were up to me. Let most CHL-bound guys play and rest top NHL/AHL guys. Maybe for the Dallas game I'd place Dumais next to a center who isn't expected to carry a line as Fantilli does with his speed and skill. I'd like to see more of Ceulemans, Roger, Weisblatt, Butler and Peddle.So Fantilli, Dumais, Jiricek, and Mateychuk? Too many?
Last year taught me to not get too excited based on the performance of this tournament, he was also shining then but looked out of place in the preseason game vs Pittsburgh.Mateychuk is making a case for keeping him up
That's a pretty lofty expectation...They have Jenner,Roslovic,Kuraly,LFoudy and CSillinger (if he can figure out he has to work)ahead of young Fantilli on the Depth chart! Now I know Adam has it all and maybe BlueJackets top pivot in no time but for now...he'll have to earn and I'm sure Babcock will handle things his way...PS There is talk that Laine will go to Centre or at least try it
I guess we'll see how things shake out and it is actually a Senority thing or rather what role the player takes! You guys probably think Fantilli is the next Anze Kopi-Star! Being a dominate College player doesn't guarantee NHL success
So Fantilli, Dumais, Jiricek, and Mateychuk? Too many?