HF Habs: 2022 NHL Draft 13

[morhilane]

Wright is the first player shown from left to right in the Habs official draft article.

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Nemec and Jiricek have entered the chat (but one of them isn't shown in the intro, hmm). Some other players mentioned as "other possible players" in a list without describing them, but I doubt the Habs are taking Geekie with the #1. Unless they hired Boisvert as a consultant...

Also, only Wright isn't trying to act like a tough guy...

 

[Geecko]

Nemec and Jiricek have entered the chat (but one of them isn't shown in the intro, hmm). Some other players mentioned as "other possible players" in a list without describing them, but I doubt the Habs are taking Geekie with the #1. Unless they hired Boisvert as a consultant...

Also, only Wright isn't trying to act like a tough guy...

Wow, no intensity even in pictures.

 

[Big Empty]

NHL Staff Mock Draft 2.0 with scouts' audit: We select the entire first round

Who did The Athletic's NHL beat writers pick in their mock draft? Has Juraj Slafkovsky overtaken Shane Wright at No. 1?

theathletic.com

1 - Wright
20 - Nazar

They had us trade 26+62 to Washington for 20. We'd retain pick 33 and be able to draft Hutson there. This would be a dream.

 

[themilosh]

Gallagher's stupid ass contract makes him immovable. f***ing Bergevin, what an idiot.

I think it's possible Gally could end up on the ltir within the next 2 years.. another surgery and he might be completely moved to the "management consultant" role

C'mon, now you're being intentionally obtuse.

30 days in the hole for you Mr. Dufresne

 

[SOLR]

Wow, no intensity even in pictures.

Nice guy be smiling to the bank.







after having a drink with Alexandre Daigle

 

[WeThreeKings]

 

[Vachon23]

NHL Staff Mock Draft 2.0 with scouts' audit: We select the entire first round

Who did The Athletic's NHL beat writers pick in their mock draft? Has Juraj Slafkovsky overtaken Shane Wright at No. 1?

theathletic.com

1 - Wright
20 - Nazar

They had us trade 26+62 to Washington for 20. We'd retain pick 33 and be able to draft Hutson there. This would be a dream.

Was Sam Rinzel still available ?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Was Sam Rinzel still available ?

28th to Buffalo

 

[Vachon23]

28th to Buffalo

Who where the good RD still available

 

[WeThreeKings]

Who where the good RD still available

Havelid and Fisher.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Who where the good RD still available

As WTK mentioned, Havelid and Fisher.

There are also: Noah Warren, Christian Kyrou, and one of my hopeful picks, David Spacek.

 

[Vachon23]

As WTK mentioned, Havelid and Fisher.

There are also: Noah Warren, Christian Kyrou, and one of my hopeful picks, David Spacek.

Havelid and Fisher.

Luneau have been pick ?

Wright Nazar Havelid and trade up for Reid Schaefer and I would be extremely happy.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Luneau have been pick ?

Wright Nazar Havelid and trade up for Reid Schaefer and I would be extremely happy.

Luneau went yeah.

Schaefer went at like 30.

Scouts audit said they saw Luneau going more in the 2nd round and that Schaefer likely goes higher. They also think Gaucher is going pretty high.

Size always wins.

 

[DiglettDangles]

For next year's thread:
Our FLA 1st just got a whole lot sweeter

 

[jfm133]

On my blog I did a draft simulation for the Habs with focus on young wigners after the first overall. When I say young, it's young in their draft year (June to September birthdates), or players playing for bad teams which likely led to lower stats. From 75 on I went with three young Ds with offensive potential, finishing with a goalie. I made two trades to move up in the second round. It's in French.

Mon repêchage simulé pour les Canadiens | Les Rescapés de Rondelle Libre

lesrescaps.xyz

 

[Milhouse40]

Nemec and Jiricek have entered the chat (but one of them isn't shown in the intro, hmm). Some other players mentioned as "other possible players" in a list without describing them, but I doubt the Habs are taking Geekie with the #1. Unless they hired Boisvert as a consultant...

Also, only Wright isn't trying to act like a tough guy...

The funny thing about those picture....all 3 of them have the same pose except Slafkovsky with his arm crossed instead....for those who knows a little about body language, this normally mean this person is not interested, close, negation.

 

[NotProkofievian]

For next year's thread:
Our FLA 1st just got a whole lot sweeter

HuGo 4D chess master

 

[BenchBrawl]

Secret de polichinelle.

The Devils are obv gonna pick Slaf if we don't.

And poor Cooley is gonna end up in Arizona to waste his early career away.

Nemec will go to Seattle and be part of the team construction there.

Then the Flyers are gonna pick a random forward.

 

[Milhouse40]

If they keep it - I can see it, the prospect and pick pool is empty.

If 20 is not available, pretty sure 21st might be.
Pittsburgh has a 1st but nothing before the 4th round and they have to start thinking about the future a little

And they keep pick 33. So you basically have 3 first round picks.

With that pick, I hope they try to move up to 25th.
Toronto has only a 1st, 3rd and 7th round pick in this draft, they might be interested to have more picks.

 

[TesseractPrice]

Look at his draft rankings in recent years. They’re terrible. If you drafted using his rankings you would not do well. He misses way more tHan he hits.

That doesn’t mean his model is useless but it’s just showing a small part of what goes into evaluation.

You would probably actually do well with some later rounds picks with guys such as Kucherov who have solid production but get overlooked by many.

As someone else mentioned, his data doesn’t include international events which is stupid.

Like a house is only as solid as its foundation, a model is only as good as the data it's fed. The "advanced" stats like xG and the likes try to be predictive of a player's success by accounting for luck for example. While they could be better, these metrics actually do a decent job to say which player is having a dry spell and which one is riding a lucky streak. You just have to use them as complement with actual watching to see which players can get overrated by models (like Brady Tkachuk and Gallagher with their extremely high counts of high danger chances due to multiple rebounds)

Where this falls down is amateur scouting because most of the best predicting metrics used are not measured or available. So instead we get this NHLe thing: a model that shits a probability to be a NHLer and a star when you feed it goals and assists.

On a related note, as someone who works in an analytical science, I find that the people who make these hockey models trust the raw data they use way too much and it is my main gripe with advanced stats. How do I know if the number of scoring chances in a given game is right? Who measure this stuff? Do they get evaluated with control games like an instrument is calibrated? What is the error behind each metric? The moment the detector is a human, you open the door to a TON of potential errors and reproductibility issues

 

[Wats]

Secret de polichinelle.

The Devils are obv gonna pick Slaf if we don't.

And poor Cooley is gonna end up in Arizona to waste his early career away.

Nemec will go to Seattle and be part of the team construction there.

Then the Flyers are gonna pick a random forward.

Cooley at least will have Keller/Schmaltz/Guenther/Hayton. Keller had it worse.

 

[A55P2]

On my blog I did a draft simulation for the Habs with focus on young wigners after the first overall. When I say young, it's young in their draft year (June to September birthdates), or players playing for bad teams which likely led to lower stats. From 75 on I went with three young Ds with offensive potential, finishing with a goalie. I made two trades to move up in the second round. It's in French.

Mon repêchage simulé pour les Canadiens | Les Rescapés de Rondelle Libre

lesrescaps.xyz

I have no infos, but if I had to guess I would say that Russian players will drop like rocks in the next draft. There's too much uncertainty. I think the talent level are not wide enough to warrant picking players that might never come over. But I might be wrong.

 

[le_sean]

Cooley at least will have Keller/Schmaltz/Guenther/Hayton. Keller had it worse.

Must be demoralizing to go to an NHL team with an arena smaller than your NCAA team.

Also a team reportedly looking to offload its 23 year old #1 defenceman for some reason.

 

[waffledave]

NHL Staff Mock Draft 2.0 with scouts' audit: We select the entire first round

Who did The Athletic's NHL beat writers pick in their mock draft? Has Juraj Slafkovsky overtaken Shane Wright at No. 1?

theathletic.com

1 - Wright
20 - Nazar

They had us trade 26+62 to Washington for 20. We'd retain pick 33 and be able to draft Hutson there. This would be a dream.

Hutson is getting so much hype lately, no way he doesn't get picked in the 1st round.

 

[themilosh]

Hutson is getting so much hype lately, no way he doesn't get picked in the 1st round.

a 5'9" D? no thank you. Basically a 4th forward (when needed), why would any organization use a 1st/2nd on such a player?