NFL: 2022 NFL regular season news & notes discussion thread

[StreetHawk]

Assuming the Eagles take care of business against the Saints, the Cowboys will likely rest their starters vs the Commanders. Double beneficial as it could cost Green Bay a playoff spot.

You can only rest so many starters. It's a 53 man roster of which 47 can suit up for a game (48 if 8 of them are OL). Take out of 3 Kicking specialists, that's still 45 guys and 22 have to play.

I suspect that big name guys to rest in Dak, Zeke, Parsons, Martin, etc. will be in street clothes. But, you can only activate guys off the PS if you make a roster move.

If Philly takes care of business this weekend, then Dallas has nothing to play for in week 18. Only if Philly loses in week 17 vs NO does it make week 18 interesting for both squads.

 

[Elvis P]

Although it's not saying much, Dobbs is better than Willis.

 

[StreetHawk]

Although it's not saying much, Dobbs is better than Willis.

Willis as touted in the draft was raw. And it clearly shows. That would concern me about Anthony Richardson at the draft who is also raw. Massive learning curve for these more raw QBs to come into the NFL with teams expecting to make a decision on them really by the end of year 2. Already have a feeling by the end of year 2 whether you plan to pick up the 5th year option or not at the end of year 3.

 

[Elvis P]

Jaire Alexander: Justin Jefferson’s 184-Yard Game vs. Packers ‘a Fluke’ | Sports Illustrated

I don't think JJ is a fluke.

 

[GKJ]

Willis as touted in the draft was raw. And it clearly shows. That would concern me about Anthony Richardson at the draft who is also raw. Massive learning curve for these more raw QBs to come into the NFL with teams expecting to make a decision on them really by the end of year 2. Already have a feeling by the end of year 2 whether you plan to pick up the 5th year option or not at the end of year 3.

What would concern me about Willis is that he’s been there all year, and played, and they brought in someone off the street on 8 days notice with basically the same amount of pro experience. And the GM who drafted him was fired. Raw or not, he was the backup QB, and they chose to go with someone they knew even less about. That’s a red flag to me that the coaching staff doesn’t think he’s developing.

Speaks even less to Kevin Hogan, who has started games and is on their practice squad.

 

[StreetHawk]

What would concern me about Willis is that he’s been there all year, and played, and they brought in someone off the street on 8 days notice with basically the same amount of pro experience. And the GM who drafted him was fired. Raw or not, he was the backup QB, and they chose to go with someone they knew even less about. That’s a red flag to me that the coaching staff doesn’t think he’s developing.

Speaks even less to Kevin Hogan, who has started games and is on their practice squad.

That was peculiar for sure. But that happens. Mond was an early 3rd rounder in 2021 and he got cut in 2022 after camp. Your draft position, if outside of round 1 doesn’t matter once the season begins. If the coaches don’t believe in you then they won’t play you.

 

[Troy McClure]

It looks like WFT started Wentz because they thought they were still in it no matter what happened today.

 

[StreetHawk]

It looks like WFT started Wentz because they thought they were still in it no matter what happened today.

You play to win the game. Not going to spend time thinking about that ramifications if you lose.

 

[Troy McClure]

You play to win the game. Not going to spend time thinking about that ramifications if you lose.

Is that what you think they did when they started Wentz and stuck with him all game?

 

[StreetHawk]

Is that what you think they did when they started Wentz and stuck with him all game?

That’s up to the HC. He gains little by not playing the guy he thinks can get the job done. He’s too in the middle of the draft to think about draft position at this point. Heinecke being to fade in recent weeks as well. His call to swap his QB or not.

Just don’t think he’s thinking going into the game what the mid PO status is if they lose the game.

 

[GKJ]

This stuff with Wentz makes me wonder what if he doesn’t get hurt in 2017, in the sense of whether or not he chokes in that playoffs.

 

[Troy McClure]

That’s up to the HC. He gains little by not playing the guy he thinks can get the job done. He’s too in the middle of the draft to think about draft position at this point. Heinecke being to fade in recent weeks as well. His call to swap his QB or not.

Just don’t think he’s thinking going into the game what the mid PO status is if they lose the game.

It seems like we had a coach who wanted to try Wentz to see which QB had more to offer for the final game of the season. But he did this while not realizing he could be eliminated this weekend.

 

[GKJ]

It seems like we had a coach who wanted to try Wentz to see which QB had more to offer for the final game of the season. But he did this while not realizing he could be eliminated this weekend.

I don’t think so, Heinicke was on a leash going into last week.

Wentz is finished though, if you can’t stay on the field, and you shit the bed when they call upon you to come back, not sure where your place is in the league.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

This stuff with Wentz makes me wonder what if he doesn’t get hurt in 2017, in the sense of whether or not he chokes in that playoffs.

Confidence has to play a part though. This dude was incredibly in the late 10s. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Eagles don't win without Wentz.

It seems like we had a coach who wanted to try Wentz to see which QB had more to offer for the final game of the season. But he did this while not realizing he could be eliminated this weekend.

I saw that. It's utterly embarassing that this happens. It's not going to be a big story but it should be.

 

[misterchainsaw]

It seems like we had a coach who wanted to try Wentz to see which QB had more to offer for the final game of the season. But he did this while not realizing he could be eliminated this weekend.

I don't buy this. Sure, it's a bad look that Rivera didn't know they could be fully eliminated today. But he surely did know that the only way to ensure they made the playoffs was to win both remaining games, since they were only a half game up entering the day. No coach is going to make decisions that takes their destiny out of their own hands to try to see who would look better for week 18.

 

[JimmyApples]

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

 

[StreetHawk]

I don’t suspect that Malik Willis will be on the titans roster 53 man in 2023 aka Mond for Minny after his rookie season.

A guy who was in camp and there for the first 16 weeks passed over by a guy who has bounced around the league as a PS guy who arrived a week earlier, doesn’t bode well for Willis’ future with the titans. And all of those pundits thinking he could go to 10 to Carolina/Seattle at the draft. Lol…

 

[GKJ]

I don’t suspect that Malik Willis will be on the titans roster 53 man in 2023 aka Mond for Minny after his rookie season.

A guy who was in camp and there for the first 16 weeks passed over by a guy who has bounced around the league as a PS guy who arrived a week earlier, doesn’t bode well for Willis’ future with the titans. And all of those pundits thinking he could go to 10 to Carolina/Seattle at the draft. Lol…

Also means you can’t rule them out taking a QB in round 1.

Funny to think about since there were people who thought Willis was going top 5, like, on draft day.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I don’t suspect that Malik Willis will be on the titans roster 53 man in 2023 aka Mond for Minny after his rookie season.

I remember Mike Zimmer basically murdering Mond on the podium after the Vikings we're eliminated last year.

A guy who was in camp and there for the first 16 weeks passed over by a guy who has bounced around the league as a PS guy who arrived a week earlier, doesn’t bode well for Willis’ future with the titans. And all of those pundits thinking he could go to 10 to Carolina/Seattle at the draft. Lol…

Project QBs don't get the same chances they used to. You don't necessarily have to be ready as a rookie if your team has an established starter but you do need to be able to show flashes at the absolute minimum by your 2nd year in order to justify keeping your roster spot at all.

 

[StreetHawk]

Also means you can’t rule them out taking a QB in round 1.

Funny to think about since there were people who thought Willis was going top 5, like, on draft day.

Titians are slotted at what like 12 or something? That’s more in line with Richardson another project type QB or Possibly Hooker who is out for half this upcoming season with an acl. Or they can try to either trade back or hope that any of the other QBs like Hall, Jurkovex, etc have potential. But I’m always of the mindset that you don’t spend a round 1/2 pick on a QB unless you are committed to try to develop them. Flyers on QBs are for rounds 3 onwards, aka Willis.

That is why QBs in college shouldn’t declare for the nfl draft until they can actually step onto an nfl field and show some good glimpses in their rookie season. You put up a dud like Willis and Love did vs KC that’s the main image you have of them.

 

[GKJ]

Titians are slotted at what like 12 or something? That’s more in line with Richardson another project type QB or Possibly Hooker who is out for half this upcoming season with an acl. Or they can try to either trade back or hope that any of the other QBs like Hall, Jurkovex, etc have potential. But I’m always of the mindset that you don’t spend a round 1/2 pick on a QB unless you are committed to try to develop them. Flyers on QBs are for rounds 3 onwards, aka Willis.

That is why QBs in college shouldn’t declare for the nfl draft until they can actually step onto an nfl field and show some good glimpses in their rookie season. You put up a dud like Willis and Love did vs KC that’s the main image you have of them.

If they don’t like Willis, they definitely won’t like Richardson. Nor should anyone else.

 

[StreetHawk]

If they don’t like Willis, they definitely won’t like Richardson. Nor should anyone else.

Nfl teams are under the gun to turn things around quickly. Can’t wait for a guy to take 3 years to show you something. More likely than not that bridge QB they used Will have a run of bad games at some point and needs to get pulled and you throw the kid out there.

I would have advised Richardson to return to Florida since he would get nil money.

 

[GKJ]

Nfl teams are under the gun to turn things around quickly. Can’t wait for a guy to take 3 years to show you something. More likely than not that bridge QB they used Will have a run of bad games at some point and needs to get pulled and you throw the kid out there.

I would have advised Richardson to return to Florida since he would get nil money.

That’s why I always say it: you draft a QB, you gotta get him on the field. You’ve committed, and if he’s not on the field, you wasted your time then and wasting more of it later. Aaron Rodgers is an exception, not the rule.

This is why I’ve never advocated the Saints drafting a QB despite hearing how they had to every year. Including last year. Especially last year.

 

[StreetHawk]

That’s why I always say it: you draft a QB, you gotta get him on the field. You’ve committed, and if he’s not on the field, you wasted your time then and wasting more of it later. Aaron Rodgers is an exception, not the rule.

This is why I’ve never advocated the Saints drafting a QB despite hearing how they had to every year. Including last year. Especially last year.

One thing to use a day 3 pick or even a 3rd rounder as a flyer on a guy and hope you can develop him vs using a first or second round pick in which you are committed.

In 2021 the Bucs took Trask in round 2 vs another position and I don’t think he has dressed for a game yet. Is he going to be the expected starter in 2023 when Brady leaves after the season? Texans took Mills and at leas they given him an opportunity to play and see what they have. Mond in round 3, early for cut a year later.

For the Bucs, Trask pick seems like a waste given their needs at WR and OL due to health this season and last. Or CB when injuries piled up last season.