Prospect Info: 2022 Draft: #36 - Artem Duda, LHD

[Caser]

Should make it cheaper for him to buy himself out assuming it’s prorated.

Reportedly he tried that in August, but CSKA didn't agree.

 

[Caser]

Report just appeared hinting that he won't be welcomed back by CSKA. So my understanding is that the question now is if he can sign an AHL deal with an active KHL contract or if he has to just sit out until May?

 

[Schemp]

Report just appeared hinting that he won't be welcomed back by CSKA. So my understanding is that the question now is if he can sign an AHL deal with an active KHL contract or if he has to just sit out until May?

I don't think the NHLPA wants to rule on it.

 

[Caser]

I don't think the NHLPA wants to rule on it.

But if let's say it is an AHL-only (or even ECHL-only) contract, what does the NHLPA has to do with it?

 

[Jamieh]

But if let's say it is an AHL-only (or even ECHL-only) contract, what does the NHLPA has to do with it?

I think it's the agreement between Federations and the NHL that would be an issue but I'm not sure where any of that stands in regards to Russia these days?? Last I read was contracts are still being honored.

 

[Schemp]

But if let's say it is an AHL-only (or even ECHL-only) contract, what does the NHLPA has to do with it?

ECHL may be a worthwhile alternative for the rest of the season until a NHL contract can be signed.

 

[Jormungandr]

f*** CSKA. They showed how much they care about active NHL contracts with the Fedotov signing and allowing him to play for them, so why should the NHL care?

 

[slv]

russian state-funded media taunts on Duda saying "oh you better stay at home". Sweet home, native club, everything is so lovely in russia. Disgusting.
I feel bad for the player, though he is russian. NCAA decided to respect the contract of a country that respects nothing. The player escaped from the schizophrenic circus, but it seems he got into another circus in the US.

 

[Caser]

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russian state-funded media taunts on Duda saying "oh you better stay at home". Sweet home, native club, everything is so lovely in russia. Disgusting.
I feel bad for the player, though he is russian. NCAA decided to respect the contract of a country that respects nothing. The player escaped from the schizophrenic circus, but it seems he got into another circus in the US.

Aside from the rather provoking title the article's content is pretty much on point, as it was a dumb decision indeed.

 

[Caser]

At least some sort of a temporary solution:

 

[rt]

At least some sort of a temporary solution:

What a catastrophe. He could’ve been in the KHL all year.

 

[Coyotes19c]

What a catastrophe. He could’ve been in the KHL all year.

I could be wrong but wasn’t it reported that he didn’t want to play in Russia? The NCAA screwed him and he’s doing the best out of a crappy situation.

 

[rt]

I could be wrong but wasn’t it reported that he didn’t want to play in Russia? The NCAA screwed him and he’s doing the best out of a crappy situation.

The NCAA sucks. But this should’ve been anticipated. He’s played pro games. This seems like a bad gamble that backfired spectacularly and cost him an entire season of development at a hugely critical time. Look how important this season has been for Guenther and Doan. Meanwhile Duda hasn’t played.

 

[Coyotes19c]

The NCAA sucks. But this should’ve been anticipated. He’s played pro games. This seems like a bad gamble that backfired spectacularly and cost him an entire season of development at a hugely critical time. Look how important this season has been for Guenther and Doan. Meanwhile Duda hasn’t played.

I get it and you’re not wrong but if he didn’t want to play in Russia, what could he have done?

 

[Caser]

I get it and you’re not wrong but if he didn’t want to play in Russia, what could he have done?

To be fair, he at least could've tried to negotiate with CSKA about some sort of a mutual contract termination before leaving, not sure if they would've agreed, but there were some cases before.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I get it and you’re not wrong but if he didn’t want to play in Russia, what could he have done?

What about another European pro league? Would anyone sign him if he's under contract with the KHL? Seems like the war situation should be considered.

 

[Coyotes19c]

What about another European pro league? Would anyone sign him if he's under contract with the KHL? Seems like the war situation should be considered.

I’m not sure how any of that works. All I know is if it’s true that he didn’t want to play in Russia, the options might have been very limited.

 

[Caser]

What about another European pro league? Would anyone sign him if he's under contract with the KHL? Seems like the war situation should be considered.

It can be considered as much as they want, but the IIHF currently still say that the KHL contracts are valid and therefore the leagues/federations that are part of the IIHF wouldn't allow that. Btw, that is valid not only for the European leagues, but if I understand it correctly also for the USHL.

 

[Edenjung]

I’m not sure how any of that works. All I know is if it’s true that he didn’t want to play in Russia, the options might have been very limited.

As far as i know, it wasn't a problem for players with a khl contract to leave and get their contract negated to join a european Club.
Similar to the UEFA.

 

[Schemp]

To be fair, he at least could've tried to negotiate with CSKA about some sort of a mutual contract termination before leaving, not sure if they would've agreed, but there were some cases before.

I thought I read somewhere that CSKA denied his request?

 

[Caser]

As far as i know, it wasn't a problem for players with a khl contract to leave and get their contract negated to join a european Club.
Similar to the UEFA.

In the UEFA transfer fee is paid by the new team for the contract with a former team to be terminated, it is possible in hockey to do this too, however in practice it doesn't happen too often, at least if we are talking about KHL teams.

 

[Caser]

I thought I read somewhere that CSKA denied his request?

Yes, but it happened in August, after he already left, so at this point it became a matter of principle for CSKA. I meant that it could've been different if he tried to negotiate in May before leaving.

 

[Schemp]

Yes, but it happened in August, after he already left, so at this point it became a matter of principle for CSKA. I meant that it could've been different if he tried to negotiate in May before leaving.

Hindsight! He probably waited afterwards, to make sure he could get/stay in the US.

 

[Caser]

Hindsight! He probably waited afterwards, to make sure he could get/stay in the US.

Maybe, but I don't think anything would be lost if he would at least try.

 

[Edenjung]

In the UEFA transfer fee is paid by the new team for the contract with a former team to be terminated, it is possible in hockey to do this too, however in practice it doesn't happen too often, at least if we are talking about KHL teams.

The rule in the uefa was an exception.
No Transfer Fee nothing. You wanna leave russia?
Just do it.
And i know of Hockey Players who did the Same.