Speculation: 2021 Offseason Roster Discussion

[Boo Boo]

Why would bob want Ritchie back he literally traded him for Heinen in spite of his desire to be a tough team?

Bob mentioned after he picked mctavish that he wants guys that bring their teammates to the fight. That’s not Ritchie. Ritchie is tough as nails when he’s engaged(or when someone engages him) but that’s rare af and his effort levels definitely don’t inspire his teammates to fight for every play

 

[bsu]

The following players really need to show us something this season: Jones, Terry, Steel, Larsson, Lundestrom.

 

[MMC]

I wouldn’t be surprised. Seems like a very Bob move. Ritchie is such a dingus.

No it doesn't, when Bob's done with you, he's done unless your name is Derek Grant

 

[DavidBL]

Lets look at the forwards who we have signed or are RFA and will be signed for sure:
Comtois-Zegras-Rakell
Rico-Lundestrom-Terry
Jones-Steel-Silf
ND-Grant-Carrick
IMO we need to move Rico and upgrade Lundestron in the top 6. We also don't quite have room for Getzlaf right now unless you bump Jones down. Move Steel to LW and put Getz as 3C. Id like to resign Rowney for the PK. This also assumes McTavish doesn't make the team. Unless BM trades some guys quick we are not signing anyone.

 

[MMC]

Carrick can probably play at the NHL level, but he has much more value to the organization as the mentor and leader in San Diego for our prospects.

 

[MMC]

We finished second last but losing Fleury and not qualifying Heinen is really going to be considered adequate roster turnover by BM isn’t it?

 

[KyleJRM]

Lets look at the forwards who we have signed or are RFA and will be signed for sure:
Comtois-Zegras-Rakell
Rico-Lundestrom-Terry
Jones-Steel-Silf
ND-Grant-Carrick
IMO we need to move Rico and upgrade Lundestron in the top 6. We also don't quite have room for Getzlaf right now unless you bump Jones down. Move Steel to LW and put Getz as 3C. Id like to resign Rowney for the PK. This also assumes McTavish doesn't make the team. Unless BM trades some guys quick we are not signing anyone.

You make room for Getzlaf by putting Steel in the AHL where he belongs. And of course, you never have your first 12 healthy at the same time.

But man as a group, it's just so awful. That's a second line, a fourth line and two AHL lines.

I look at the defense and think "OK, that's not bad." And Gibson is at worst decent and at his best there's no one better.

But you can't possibly try to be even a fringe playoff team with a forward group that bad.

 

[Arthuros]

Lets look at the forwards who we have signed or are RFA and will be signed for sure:
Comtois-Zegras-Rakell
Rico-Lundestrom-Terry
Jones-Steel-Silf
ND-Grant-Carrick
IMO we need to move Rico and upgrade Lundestron in the top 6. We also don't quite have room for Getzlaf right now unless you bump Jones down. Move Steel to LW and put Getz as 3C. Id like to resign Rowney for the PK. This also assumes McTavish doesn't make the team. Unless BM trades some guys quick we are not signing anyone.

Holy shit, that's all awful.

 

[bsu]

I will say now, I want the Ducks to sign Hampus long term and be the next possible Captain. I don't care what anyone tells me he's our most important player. He has had some bad luck with injuries but he works his ass off in the off season and is as competitive as they come. Come to think about it that is probably why last season was so damn boring to me. He makes all the little plays no one notices and is so f***in smart defensively I love watching it.

 

[Arthuros]

The following players really need to show us something this season: Jones, Terry, Steel, Larsson, Lundestrom.

The only one I would disagree with is Lundestrom, in the sense that he's younger than everyone else.

If Steel and Larsson don't figure it out, we should show them the door and not feel bad about it. Terry is showing promise and needs to keep doing so.

Jones is an interesting case, because he's someone you should have in your bottom 6 - a disappointment relative to what he was drafted for, but at the very least serves a purpose. Steel and Larsson just don't bring anything good to the table, tangible or not.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I will say now, I want the Ducks to sign Hampus long term and be the next possible Captain. I don't care what anyone tells me he's our most important player. He has had some bad luck with injuries but he works his ass off in the off season and is as competitive as they come. Come to think about it that is probably why last season was so damn boring to me. He makes all the little plays no one notices and is so f***in smart defensively I love watching it.

I hope he wants to sign long term. And yeah i love all the little stuff he does, ever since his debut.
Beauchemin had his career high goals in a season playing with Lindholm, imagine what he could do for Drysdale.

 

[bsu]

I also have no problem with Cam wearing an "A". I acutally think he's a perfect assistant to be honest but in no shape way or form should he be considered for Captain of the Ducks.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Lets look at the forwards who we have signed or are RFA and will be signed for sure:
Comtois-Zegras-Rakell
Rico-Lundestrom-Terry
Jones-Steel-Silf
ND-Grant-Carrick
IMO we need to move Rico and upgrade Lundestron in the top 6. We also don't quite have room for Getzlaf right now unless you bump Jones down. Move Steel to LW and put Getz as 3C. Id like to resign Rowney for the PK. This also assumes McTavish doesn't make the team. Unless BM trades some guys quick we are not signing anyone.

If Bob doesn't shore up those forward lines somehow we will see the worst scoring Ducks team ever. I consider HF to be the home to a more "hardcore" style of fan that is more interested in the inner workings of the game both on and off the ice, and EVEN HERE ON HF I see a lot of Ducks fans (myself included) becoming incredibly disinterested in watching such a boring, no-offense team play. What do you think this trash on-ice product is doing to the casual fans?

This is a dark time to be a Ducks fan if Bob doesn't do something to give our up-and-coming studs some kind of support. I don't expect to compete for the cup but maybe we could try not being dead last in the league in scoring for the third time in four years?

 

[Ducks DVM]

You make room for Getzlaf by putting Steel in the AHL where he belongs. And of course, you never have your first 12 healthy at the same time.

But man as a group, it's just so awful. That's a second line, a fourth line and two AHL lines.

I look at the defense and think "OK, that's not bad." And Gibson is at worst decent and at his best there's no one better.

But you can't possibly try to be even a fringe playoff team with a forward group that bad.

Steel is not waiver exempt, he’s not going to the AHL.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

If Bob doesn't shore up those forward lines somehow we will see the worst scoring Ducks team ever. I consider HF to be the home to a more "hardcore" style of fan that is more interested in the inner workings of the game both on and off the ice, and EVEN HERE ON HF I see a lot of Ducks fans (myself included) becoming incredibly disinterested in watching such a boring, no-offense team play. What do you think this trash on-ice product is doing to the casual fans?

This is a dark time to be a Ducks fan if Bob doesn't do something to give our up-and-coming studs some kind of support. I don't expect to compete for the cup but maybe we could try not being dead last in the league in scoring for the third time in four years?

Even the horrible Ottawa teams had an offense that could score goals, they just gave up too many.
They seem to develop forwards alot better.

 

[Sean Garrity]

I will say now, I want the Ducks to sign Hampus long term and be the next possible Captain. I don't care what anyone tells me he's our most important player. He has had some bad luck with injuries but he works his ass off in the off season and is as competitive as they come. Come to think about it that is probably why last season was so damn boring to me. He makes all the little plays no one notices and is so f***in smart defensively I love watching it.

I think everyone agrees...if he's healthy. Key word being IF.

 

[Deuce22]

Steel is not waiver exempt, he’s not going to the AHL.

Murray was willing to lose Fleury to keep Steel. I don't think the intent was for him to play with the Gulls.

 

[KyleJRM]

Then we can all chip in and get him a nice, comfortable seat in the press box.

I'm sure he'll get gifted playing time he doesn't deserve, but even on this putrid roster he's not one of the 12 best forwards

 

[bsu]

Steel isn't better at one thing than Carrick other than maybe skating by a little bit.. I'll take carrick grit over Steel right now but I watch a lot of SD I love Sam (Carrick). Carrick is actually pretty damn good offensively. I think him and steel are pretty comparable right now.

 

[duckpuck]

Lindholm Drysdale HAS to be a thing. I mean cmon.

It should be a thing in 2022-23. Until then, shelter Drysdale. Or at least start the season that way and maybe move him up if/when Manson is traded.

 

[KyleJRM]

Steel isn't better at one thing than Carrick other than maybe skating by a little bit.. I'll take carrick grit over Steel right now but I watch a lot of SD I love Sam (Carrick). Carrick is actually pretty damn good offensively. I think him and steel are pretty comparable right now.

That's pretty much the career I expect for Steel once he's done being part of the Ducks "Anyone under 25 gets a free roster spot" program. A whole lot of AHL minutes with the occasional month in the big leagues.

 

[Masch78]

Murray was willing to lose Fleury to keep Steel. I don't think the intent was for him to play with the Gulls.

How often again? 3 forwards unprotected to keep Fleury. It's 4-4-1 or 7-3-1.

 

[Vipers31]

How often again? 3 forwards unprotected to keep Fleury. It's 4-4-1 or 7-3-1.

Plenty more often, and rightly so. You’re only losing one asset. The decision making process comes down to losing the least important/valuable asset. If forward #5 is more valuable than defenseman #4, that’s the decision right there, and forwards #6&7 never enter the equation. We can reasonably say that Deslaurier wasn’t a driving factor, and given Seattle‘s apparent aversion to picking up salary, Silfverberg probably wasn’t going to be an overly attractive target, either. Murray might well feel differently about that, but even then, it would only change the question to whether losing Steel or Silfverg was preferable to losing Fleury.

 

[gilfaizon]

Plenty more often, and rightly so. You’re only losing one asset. The decision making process comes down to losing the least important/valuable asset. If forward #5 is more valuable than defenseman #4, that’s the decision right there, and forwards #6&7 never enter the equation. We can reasonably say that Deslaurier wasn’t a driving factor, and given Seattle‘s apparent aversion to picking up salary, Silfverberg probably wasn’t going to be an overly attractive target, either. Murray might well feel differently about that, but even then, it would only change the question to whether losing Steel or Silfverg was preferable to losing Fleury.

I don't think we will have any trouble picking up another Fluery type upside guy in the next few days, whether via FA or trade. I saw Djoos was non-tendered, I wonder if we think about him again. Either way, I think they know guys like Steel and Jones may be a little more valuable to a team that is desperate for offense. These guys both produced at the CHL and AHL level, and are just pushing to take that next step.

 

[bsu]

I just want to say (I don't know where to put this) But this forum has been great in the last week, a lot less toxic shit than I have seen around here earlier this year. I was almost about to stop posting here until next season because it was toxic as hell..... Props to everyone.