2020 WJC - Denisenko (RUS), Schütz (GER) and Knight (USA) chase World Junior Gold

[ProjectPanthers]

Not very Canadian like from Heyton. Most of us up here are pretty disappointed in him.

Take the loss, you earned it.

 

[KW]

Heyton being reason #134 why I just can’t root for the Canadian team. Yeah, Canada is still the world’s overall hockey superpower, with 6-7% of the nation being actively involved in the sport by playing at some level (Finland being second with 3-4% participation rate), so some there seem to think it’s “understandable” for them to lord their hockey status over others (because that’s their main thing).

But the way it’s done is IMO with an in your face hypocrisy: when Canada wins, it was “expected”, and when Canada loses it was a “letdown” or “losing to ourselves”. Rarely is it a sincere “the other team was better”. Until they learn some humility, perhaps the Canadian NHL teams will not win the SCF, due to hockey karma. Sorry to the great Canadian fans here, sorry to be so blunt, but that’s been my observation over the years.

 

[Chaos2k7]

Heyton being reason #134 why I just can’t root for the Canadian team. Yeah, Canada is still the world’s overall hockey superpower, with 6-7% of the nation being actively involved in the sport by playing at some level (Finland being second with 3-4% participation rate), so some there seem to think it’s “understandable” for them to lord their hockey status over others (because that’s their main thing).

But the way it’s done is IMO with an in your face hypocrisy: when Canada wins, it was “expected”, and when Canada loses it was a “letdown” or “losing to ourselves”. Rarely is it a sincere “the other team was better”. Until they learn some humility, perhaps the Canadian NHL teams will not win the SCF, due to hockey karma. Sorry to the great Canadian fans here, sorry to be so blunt, but that’s been my observation over the years.

You probably shouldnt generalize for Canadians everywhere when you arent one.

This one young mans actions dont speak for a nation. In fact I am pretty sure this exact incident happened in reverse just last year, with the Russians disrespecting the Canadian anthem. Doesnt make it right.

 

[KW]

You probably shouldnt generalize for Canadians when you arent one.

This one young mans actions dont speak for a nation.

I understood that before I wrote what I did. I know there are many great and humble Canadian players and fans. Their voices don’t come through the vocal minority.

I’m not condemning the nation, I’m only saying why I can’t root for their team.

 

[Chaos2k7]

I understood that before I wrote what I did. I know there are many great and humble Canadian players and fans. Their voices don’t come through the vocal minority.

I’m not condemning the nation, I’m only saying why I can’t root for their team.

You would be hard pressed to prove that the "majority" of Canadians feel that way.

The vast majority have condemned the actions, and he apologized.

What you are doing is called confirmation bias.

 

[KW]

You would be hard pressed to prove that the "majority" of Canadians feel that way.

The vast majority have condemned the actions, and he apologized.

That’s good.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Knight looked real good in the first vs RUS

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Knight is player of game for US in a 3-1 win vs RUS

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Knight looked real good in the first vs RUS

Excellent play by him all game. Deservedly chosen as the US best player.
Denisenko seemed not to do much until it became 3-1, then he turned it on.

 

[violaswallet]

Excellent play by him all game. Deservedly chosen as the US best player.
Denisenko seemed not to do much until it became 3-1, then he turned it on.

I think it is more that they're not giving him top-line minutes. Pretty tough when he has to do it by himself... even though imo he is the most noticable Russian player

 

[letsgrowcactus]

I think it is more that they're not giving him top-line minutes. Pretty tough when he has to do it by himself... even though imo he is the most noticable Russian player

True - it seems they weren't using him enough, at least until they were clearly losing and needed goals.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Knight is player of game for US in a 3-1 win vs RUS

I just saw this. So, uh, can this kid play or what?

 

[Mogo]

From yesterday. Schutz 1 second shift

 

[Prominence Problem]

I'm watching Canada Germany this morning.
Schütz again looks good. Flying as usual. Very defensively responsible on the ice, always thinking defense first it seems. Got robbed on a two on one early in the second.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I'm watching Canada Germany this morning.
Schütz again looks good. Flying as usual. Very defensively responsible on the ice, always thinking defense first it seems. Got robbed on a two on one early in the second.

Bergenheim lite a bit? Does he have a physical side to him? Seems like a good bottom 6 player if he hits his ceiling

 

[pantherbot]

From yesterday. Schutz 1 second shift

that's pretty funny. I like guys with sandpaper, but he's got to learn to adjust to the refs, it happens sometimes and a smart player figures that out instead of putting his team down a man.

 

[Prominence Problem]

Bergenheim lite a bit? Does he have a physical side to him? Seems like a good bottom 6 player if he hits his ceiling

Yeah I would say he's somewhat like him. Also maybe: Hagman, Matt Cullen, Tommy Fitzgerald. Something along those lines, but a Center. Again, very fast.

He does seem to have a physical side to him. He did get 5 minor penalties last game he played. He seems a wee bit light though to be in the NHL anytime soon Imo. Listed at 180 lbs, but definitely looks smaller than that.

But for a sixth-round pick in '18, I really like this selection.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

I'm watching Canada Germany this morning.
Schütz again looks good. Flying as usual. Very defensively responsible on the ice, always thinking defense first it seems. Got robbed on a two on one early in the second.

Yeah I would say he's somewhat like him. Also maybe: Hagman, Matt Cullen, Tommy Fitzgerald. Something along those lines, but a Center. Again, very fast.

He does seem to have a physical side to him. He did get 5 minor penalties last game he played. He seems a wee bit light though to be in the NHL anytime soon Imo. Listed at 180 lbs, but definitely looks smaller than that.

But for a sixth-round pick in '18, I really like this selection.

Agreed about Schutz - I've been impressed by his defensive play and his physicallity despite his lack of size. I liked him offensively last year at the Division1-WJC but this is new.

 

[Prominence Problem]

Nice work down low by Schütz for a late secondary PPA

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Schutz gets a secondary assist on the goal here...

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Very solid game by Knight today again against the Czechs.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Very solid game by Knight today again against the Czechs.

But he let on 3 goals... that means he sucks. It’s always the goalies fault.

 

[KW]

But he let on 3 goals... that means he sucks. It’s always the goalies fault.

Nail, meet hammer.

 

[violaswallet]

But he let on 3 goals... that means he sucks. It’s always the goalies fault.

Two goals were essentially 5-3 (Miller lost his stick on a regular pk) Still he hasn't blown me away...

 

[Chaos2k7]

On to the next thing to gripe about, are you guys actually watching team USA?