2020 Entry Draft Thread

[goforit]

Rossi seems pretty good but I think people here will have a heart attack if we draft another small guy

This, as much as I like small talented players, we will need to add size to that lineup at some point.

 

[Goldenhands]

Perfetti is a uniquely terrible skater unless something's changed in the last month.

Overstatement here, while he isnt a speedster, his speed is quite fine...

 

[NotProkofievian]

Overstatement here, while he isnt a speedster, his speed is quite fine...

If Perfetti isn't a terrible skater, we're just not considering skating anymore when evaluating prospects.

 

[Goldenhands]

If Perfetti isn't a terrible skater, we're just not considering skating anymore when evaluating prospects.

Skating is important to factor, but this isnt an issue with Perfetti going foward...

Edit: You loved Bobby Brink last year whose skating was much more of an issue than it is with Perfetti... Having a hard time to seize you...

 

[covfefe]

My thing with Perfetti is basically that, while he’s a poor skater, every other aspect of the package he brings is outstanding. I trust that a kid that skilled will realize he has a leak and needs to improve on (it).

I watched Draisaitl in Kelowna quite a bit and he was legitimately skating in quicksand, even my grandpa who has cataracts was cracking jokes about his skating. Skating can be worked on and improved, unlike other hard skills that you either have or don’t.

Get the kid a trainer and nutritionist and a power skating coach and see where it goes. Offensively he has it all. Can’t teach the IQ and poise he has with the puck.

 

[HabsForHire]

Right now we drafted 9th. Rossi be good pick.

Not at 9, there shoupd be a few players left that id take over him. We already drafted our midget goal scorer in goalfield.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Skating is important to factor, but this isnt an issue with Perfetti going foward...

Edit: You loved Bobby Brink last year whose skating was much more of an issue than it is with Perfetti... Having a hard time to seize you...

For one, I criticized Brink's skating. I am now criticizing Perfetti's skating. But I also provided a pretty thorough analysis of Brink's skating: he was not containable in-zone, but his straight line skating was terrible. Brink had a skating asset. Perfetti's skating is honestly so bad. Everything he does is in spite of it.

 

[NotProkofievian]

My thing with Perfetti is basically that, while he’s a poor skater, every other aspect of the package he brings is outstanding. I trust that a kid that skilled will realize he has a leak and needs to improve on (it).

I watched Draisaitl in Kelowna quite a bit and he was legitimately skating in quicksand, even my grandpa who has cataracts was cracking jokes about his skating. Skating can be worked on and improved, unlike other hard skills that you either have or don’t.

Get the kid a trainer and nutritionist and a power skating coach and see where it goes. Offensively he has it all. Can’t teach the IQ and poise he has with the puck.

That's true. Watching video from Draisaitl's draft season it's hard to believe it's the same player today.

...but then we have to develop him. We, who do not employ a skating coach, or a skills coach, will be in charge of developing him.

 

[atrud66]

That's true. Watching video from Draisaitl's draft season it's hard to believe it's the same player today.

...but then we have to develop him. We, who do not employ a skating coach, or a skills coach, will be in charge of developing him.

That's crazy that we don't have a skating coach

 

[NotProkofievian]

That's crazy that we don't have a skating coach

It really, truly is. Toronto has multiple skills development coaches on the ice with their players every practice.

...that better not work. Because it is so f***ing obvious that I'm going to be mad that they had to think of it first.

 

[atrud66]

It really, truly is. Toronto has multiple skills development coaches on the ice with their players every practice.

...that better not work. Because it is so ****ing obvious that I'm going to be mad that they had to think of it first.

If the Habs had these skills and skating coaches, I wouldn't be as opposed to KK developing in the NHL but he's been stagnant since he's entered the league due to lack of opportunity and lack of skill development.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

My thing with Perfetti is basically that, while he’s a poor skater, every other aspect of the package he brings is outstanding. I trust that a kid that skilled will realize he has a leak and needs to improve on (it).

I watched Draisaitl in Kelowna quite a bit and he was legitimately skating in quicksand, even my grandpa who has cataracts was cracking jokes about his skating. Skating can be worked on and improved, unlike other hard skills that you either have or don’t.

Get the kid a trainer and nutritionist and a power skating coach and see where it goes. Offensively he has it all. Can’t teach the IQ and poise he has with the puck.

I just don't trust Montreal to help him develop like that. Only one who's vastly improved their skating from the time of drafting is Gallagher and his mother is a personal trainer.

Would prefer skating to be an asset already because of the limitations of this organization.

 

[Goldenhands]

For one, I criticized Brink's skating. I am now criticizing Perfetti's skating. But I also provided a pretty thorough analysis of Brink's skating: he was not containable in-zone, but his straight line skating was terrible. Brink had a skating asset. Perfetti's skating is honestly so bad. Everything he does is in spite of it.

Would you call Suzuki a slow skater back to his junior years? Because their skating looks pretty similar in their draft year, good agility but lack explosiveness... I would call Perfetti an average skater, but he is so smart and so skilled that its not really a concern to me when I watch him play... Now if you call him a slow skater compared to the top fowards in the draft, I would agree with that...

 

[NotProkofievian]

Would you call Suzuki a slow skater back to his junior years? Because their skating looks pretty similar in their draft year, good agility but lack explosiveness... I would call Perfetti an average skater, but he is so smart and so skilled that its not really a concern to me when I watch him play... Now if you call him a slow skater compared to the top fowards in the draft, I would agree with that...

No. Suzuki is a much better skater than Perfetti is. Perfetti is a Vilardi level skater. I seriously don't get how you can say that Cole is an ''average'' skater. Average for men's league perhaps.

 

[Scintillating10]

Not at 9, there shoupd be a few players left that id take over him. We already drafted our midget goal scorer in goalfield.

Rossi has impressive offensive numbers.

 

[HabsForHire]

Rossi has impressive offensive numbers.

We dont need to add another 5'4 player

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'm usually 100% with team BPA on these arguments but even I have to admit size AND skill would be kinda nice at the top. For whatever reason we seem to have a hard time putting those two things together, it's mostly one or the other.

 

[Scintillating10]

We dont need to add another 5'4 player

He is not that small. Rossi is 5'9, 187lbs.

 

[HabsMD97]

Draisaitl was a terrible skater but he is also 6'3. Perfetti is 5'10. for every top prospect that improves their skating, there's 2 that never do. I believe theres research out there indicating that speed is something that plateaus early in a players career. You can improve your fundamentals but speed is extremely hard to improve. My guy is dawson mercer for this draft so far.

 

[NeptunesTrident]

I just don't trust Montreal to help him develop like that. Only one who's vastly improved their skating from the time of drafting is Gallagher and his mother is a personal trainer.

Would prefer skating to be an asset already because of the limitations of this organization.

I find this interesting for one reason. If the organization isn't maxing out on the salary cap like Montreal(roughly $7.5M remaining on cap) and it has limitations, then that suggests to ME that Condo Boy is having money trouble because skating coaches aren't that expensive. I apologize to mods as I know this is the Entry Draft thread.

 

[montreal]

So Holtz has a knee injury and will likely miss the WJC's.

 

[Plekatorz]

So Holtz has a knee injury and will likely miss the WJC's.

That is sad, really sad.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

So Holtz has a knee injury and will likely miss the WJC's.

Man, I was looking forward to seeing more of him

 

[montreal]

That is sad, really sad.

Man, I was looking forward to seeing more of him

well if we continue to struggle this season and he misses a lot of time it could work out well for us. The new Swedish scout we hired seems like he may have found us a solid pick in Norlinder and I'm sure he would be all for Hotz if he did drop to our range. But with possible no Holtz or Lundell at the WJC's it should be interesting to see where they end up ranked at and where we end up picking.

 

[Plekatorz]

With Caufield, Ylonen, Holtz, Gallagher and al. It would be interesting at RW in the future. A little bit redundant, but you can’t say no to that kind of scoring ability.