2020 Entry Draft Thread Part 8

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Seeley is just a slightly bigger Mete. While a player like that has value, his lack of shot will definitely expose him offensively in the big leagues. I’m not using a Top 40 pick on a player like that. There will be better players available.

Seeley has 3 inches on Mete and is more creative\skilled with the puck, his shot could improve as he gets stronger...
 

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Seeley has 3 inches on Mete and is more creative\skilled with the puck, his shot could improve as he gets stronger...

That’s great if you want to bank on that. But if I’m using an early 2nd, I’m going with someone like Ryan O’Rourke who has much more potential. Or Joni Jurmo.
 
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That’s great if you want to bank on that. But if I’m using an early 2nd, I’m going with someone like Ryan O’Rourke who has much more potential. Or Joni Jurmo.
I havent made my homework on O'Rourke, cant comment for now...
 

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hockeyprospect.com have him ranked way higher than than most lists...



Disagree, after 20-25th overall, there is a drop and Seeley easily belong to that 2nd group, kid is one of the best skaters in the draft, walks the line extremmely well on the PP, great passing skills, above average puck skills, clearly there is upside in this kid!

The draft will prove you wrong, cant see Seeley last very long in that 2nd round...
Didn't Puutio take his place to QB Everett's PP after the trade? Also if you're talking about skating/passing guys I would target Cormier or Sebrango before Seeley. A couple of Euro D like Wallinder, Jurno, Niemela, Andrea I would also rather take a flyer on than Seeley in the 2nd.
 

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That’s great if you want to bank on that. But if I’m using an early 2nd, I’m going with someone like Ryan O’Rourke who has much more potential. Or Joni Jurmo.
O'Bourke will be pick in the late first is my guess
 

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O'Bourke will be pick in the late first is my guess

I’d use two 2nds to move up to get him. I think he explodes like Conor Timmins did with the Soo. He’ll get more opportunities next year and run with it.
 

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First try with the draftprospectshockey simulator:
Also did it!
9. Raymond
39. O'Bourke
40. Jurno
61. Neighbors
70. Pitlick
91. Evangelista
98. Sourdif
101. Robins
105. Nickl
132. Puutio
138. Straka
163. Berezhogin
188. Trineyev
195. Bednar

If it's anywhere close to this, I'm gonna cry
 
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Didn't Puutio take his place to QB Everett's PP after the trade? Also if you're talking about skating/passing guys I would target Cormier or Sebrango before Seeley. A couple of Euro D like Wallinder, Jurno, Niemela, Andrea I would also rather take a flyer on than Seeley in the 2nd.
The games I watched he was on the 2nd unit and did very well, but that Everett blueline was stacked so he should get his responsabilities increased next year with Wylie and Christansen gone...

Sebrango and Cormier arent in the same league as Seeley as far as Im concerned ... Cormier is a flawed and undersized puckmover while Sebrango makes alot of technical mistakes in all 3 zones, kid misses the net wide on most occasions to the point that I would be effraid to play in front of the net if I was a teammate or a defender ...

Wallinder has some impressive athletic skills, but the brain is either missing or damaged...

I like Niemela as a late 2nd rounder but I have Seeley clearly ahead...
 
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The games I watched he was on the 2nd unit and did very well, but that Everett blueline was stacked so he should get his responsabilities increased next year with Wylie and Christansen gone...

Sebrango and Cormier arent in the same league as Seeley as far as Im concerned ... Cormier is a flawed and undersized puckmover while Sebrango makes alot of technical mistakes in all 3 zones, kid misses the net wide on most occasions to the point that I would be effraid to play in front of the net if I was a teammate or a defender ...

Wallinder has some impressive athletic skills, but the brain is either missing or damaged...

I like Niemela as a late 2nd rounder but I have Seeley clearly ahead...
Damn, you're really high on him what would be your top5/top10 D for the draft?
 

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The more I think about it the more I tend to think Askarov is the pick for us. When Price leave we could have the best duo of goaltender in the league for years to come.
 

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The more I think about it the more I tend to think Askarov is the pick for us. When Price leave we could have the best duo of goaltender in the league for years to come.

You’d pick a goalie in the Top 10 with the goal of him splitting time with a goalie picked in the 7th round?

If you pick a goalie in the Top 10, he better be starting 70 games a year.
 
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Damn, you're really high on him what would be your top5/top10 D for the draft?

Well, for me Drysdale is the most offensively gifted defenseman in the draft, the one that should be the most productive offensively since his tools reminds me alot of Quinn Hughes and his shot might be even better... Kid has everthing to become a dominant PP quarterback... But a bit like Hughes, the defensive part of his game needs improvement, not saying he is bad at defending, but sometimes he will rush plays or take questionnable decisions that will cost the team defensively, he doesnt play a mistake free game like Sanderson or Schneider do. So it comes to what your team needs more... If you already have a good PP specialist, it might be smarter to opt for Sanderson, if you have none, I dont think Sanderson or Schneider can provide that type of offense, especially on the PP...

Personally, when it comes to defensemen, I tend to value the defensive part of the game pretty highly since thats your first and most important mission, you can be skilled all you want, if you take bad decisions under pressure, get outmuscled 1 on 1 or dont process the game well enough, you start with 2 strikes against you...

Best example in this draft is Wallinder, kid has great athletic tools, solid offensive potential, but has no clue how to defend... Poor gap control, poor positioning, doesnt read the play well and takes bad decisions, his lack of poise is concerning enough for me to downgrade his ranking signifiantly... Another good example is Jeremy Poirier, on skills alone, he should be a guarentee first rounder, but his IQ is so low that I have no faith he will amount to anything decent at the pro level... Im also biaised against small defensemen, they really need to be special to catch my attention since they concede alot in term of reach and physicality, its one thing to be dominant at the junior level, another to translate it at the Pro...

When you take a look at the NHL D-core structures, you have 1 or 2 under 6 feet defensemen per team max and some teams have none, the reason is simple, you just cant have 2 small defensemen paired togheter since they would be too easy to play against, If you can find me 1 succesful d pairing in the entire NHL that includes 2 guys under 6"0, good luck... To make a long story short, every years in each draft, you have ton of skilled undersized defensemen that never amount to anything since they dont generate enough offensively to make up for their small stature and defensive work... Big mobile defensemen like Sanderson and Schneider for example, will be extremmely hard to play against since they limit time and space to the opposing fowards, they can also move the puck, skate and contribute on transition the same way smaller players would do...

Thats a weak draft for defensemen and there are kids like O'Rourke that I havent see play, so it becomes hard to dress a rational list, but regardless, here are some of my favorites:


1-Sanderson\Drysdale
3-Schneider
4-Guhle
5-Jurmo
6-Seeley
7-Barron
 
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If we’re picking 9th and the choice is between Quinn, Sanderson, Askarov, who ya taking?

for me it’s Quinn all day

I can’t see Sanderson still being on the board at pick 9. I think there’s a far better chance of one of the Swedes or Rossi still being there.
 
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