2020-21 Norris Trophy candidates: Adam Fox, Victor Hedman, Cale Makar

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  1. rangersfansince08 Registered User

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    As if Fox and Makar aren't good at defending.
     
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    Has to be Makar.

    If he hadn't missed as many games as he did, this wouldn't even be a debate.
     
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    Been that way the last 10 years.... Karlsson won 2 of them things.

    5th straight year of being a finalist as well, thats probably an even smaller group of players.
     
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    people saying adam fox LOL his team didnt even make the playoffs
     
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    Haha overrated

    Sarcasm I assume?

    I don't think I've EVER heard "Makar" and "overrated" in the same sentence... even those that despise the Avs would never dream of saying that
     
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  6. Lord Nikon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Clearly you are new to this sport called Hockey.
     
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    Exhibit A
    Exhibit B
     
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    Fox's team didn't make the playoffs
    Makar doesnt kill penalties
    Hedman wasn't as good.

    PHWA are always a few years behind because they only watch local teams. They'll give it to Hedman based on reputation over a longer period.
     
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    Ohhhh ok makes sense cause i see you are a Nucks fan... goes back to the whole Makar vs. Hughes thing lol... now it makes sense why you think he's overrated.

    Just try to put hate/jealousy aside and watch Makar actually play... your thoughts will change
     
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    So what you are saying is the Canucks are overrated as a franchise...;)
     
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    Lol no no... I'll never say anything bad about the Nucks!!.. I grew up watching them all the time!.. but I just know how alot of fans got with the whole Makar/Hughes thing last season!!
     
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    But..but Hughes is McDavid on defense or so we have been told. Seems like some Nuck fans cannot come to terms that another defensemen is better.
     
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    If your best reason for why a player shouldn't receive an individual award is his team's position in the standings...
     
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    Adam Fox should win it. Makar would have won it had he played a full season, I think overall he was the best this particular season. Hedman will win it because his name is Hedman (and that is literally the only reason he would win it). Hedman is the best overall defense man in the NHL, but he wasn't a top-3 defender this season. I'd argue he isn't top-5 this year and feel confident in that assessment too. His nomination this year baffling to me.
     
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    He did play the last few months injured yet still logging top 5 mins. And tearing it up in the playoffs so we will see how much damage he has after the playoffs
     
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    You must have missed the Pens this season.
     
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    How do the other two compare with who they scored their points against?
     
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    That’s cute that you assume that
     
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    G/A/P/GP/Opponent

    Fox:
    1/7/8/8/NJD
    0/1/1/8/NYI
    0/10/10/7/PHI
    2/6/8/8/PIT
    0/2/2/8/BOS
    1/11/12/8/BUF
    1/8/6/8/WSH

    Makar:
    2/8/10/8/STL
    0/5/5/5/ANA
    2/4/6/6/LAK
    1/7/8/6/SJS
    2/7/9/8/MIN
    0/4/4/5/ARI
    1/1/2/6/VGK

    Hedman:
    1/4/5/8/CAR
    1/5/6/6/FLA
    2/9/11/8/CHI
    2/3/5/8/DET
    1/6/7/8/NSH
    0/4/4/8/DAL
    2/5/7/8/CBJ
     
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    Hedman shouldn't have been a nominee. Gimme Jakob Chychrun instead for this season.
     
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    Without Fox they're picking top 3 again.

    The Rangers were the Lightning when Fox was on the ice and the Sabres when he wasn't.
     
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    I think Makar, when healthy, has been the best defenseman in the league this year. With him missing time I'd give it to Fox but Rangers didn't make the playoffs so he probably won't win it.

    There's been seasons where Hedman deserved it but others got their reputation Norris Trophies. This year Hedman probably takes it on reputation.
     
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    Happy for Fox, he deserves the nomination. Makar wins it imo.
     
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    you can find whatever correlation you like (i realized that since 2020) fact remains as soon as both left their respective markets their value declined

    say its age

    but Doughty, Weber, Pietrangelo, Josi, Suter, Burns, Giordano are still effective at what they do

    only Karlsson and Subban aged tremendously it seems (or they always were overrated)
     
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    I honestly don't know who will win it.

    Fox probably deserves it on play this season.
     

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