Boston Bruins 2020-2021 Roster Discussion V - STAY ON TOPIC

[BAD BOY]

I think zboril will end up better then hannifin anyway . Book it. Yes I said that.

No....no .. just no

 

[BAD BOY]

The thought of Chara playing for another team makes me sick to my stomach. This team can’t act like they haven’t relied on him heavily these last two seasons. Sure, he’s no longer a #1 but he played against top lines all year for a presidents trophy winning team. If management can’t see he’s worth whatever money we have left to offer then I simply can’t deal.

Laine would be a big interest. Stamkos is not coming here, Tampa isn’t dealing with the bruins. The Chara situation if he comes back or not I’m fine either way. The thing I don’t understand is I keep hearing the bruins have all these great young D on the roster or in the pipeline. I think it’s about time they start playing them or trading some. They just can’t keep holding off another year.

 

[BAD BOY]

The other thought I would not move Studnicka in a deal for Hanifin any other prospect I would. I would for Laine or a young goal scorer like him. Not necessarily him but like him.

My deal would look like this.. It would involve Calgary and the Bruins because I think they match up well. This is just IMO .



Calgary: Beecher, Bjork, Kase, UV
Boston : Hanifin , Bennett


It’s a win now and for the future move for bruins. The flames get young players they keep with them or latter can flip if they don’t want them. The money works salary wise .. I think lol

 

[bbfan419]

I hope the Bruins are in the market for Stamkos! He's one of the very few players in the league that is worth the money. I would give up half our organization to get him.

I would love Stamkos with the Bruins, but not sure how much I would give up for him due to contract and more importantly his health. If he is 100% healthy and ready to play, yes he is someone I would target for the B's.

 

[bbfan419]

The other thought I would not move Studnicka in a deal for Hanifin any other prospect I would. I would for Laine or a young goal scorer like him. Not necessarily him but like him.

My deal would look like this.. It would involve Calgary and the Bruins because I think they match up well. This is just IMO .



Calgary: Beecher, Bjork, Kase, UV
Boston : Hanifin , Bennett


It’s a win now and for the future move for bruins. The flames get young players they keep with them or latter can flip if they don’t want them. The money works salary wise .. I think lol

I would do this deal, even though hate giving up Beecher and UV. I think Kase can be a 20 goal guy, Bjork not sure he may just be what he is a solid 4th line type player.

 

[bme44]

I would do this deal, even though hate giving up Beecher and UV. I think Kase can be a 20 goal guy, Bjork not sure he may just be what he is a solid 4th line type player.

Bjork is a player I hope ,that has gotten stronger during the off season . I feel if he has put on some muscle and gets a chance , he can be a 20+ goal scorer in a full season. IMO the area he must improve most is being stronger on the puck, if he can he will be a solid middle winger, if not he will be out of the NHL at the end of his contract.

 

[Dizzay]

1. McAvoy
2. Carlo
............
4. Gryzz
.............
5. Lauzon
6. Moore/Miller/Clifton
.........................................
unknown: Vaak/Zboril

McAvoy is a clear cut #1 guy. Everyone thinks of "bubble" Carlo when calling him a #3 or even a #4 but I thought for many stretches the last two years, he was our most consistent guy. He's a #2, anchors the second pair for sure.

Gryz to me can easily play in the top 4. He's better defensively than Krug and easily a better skater. I like him with Carlo on the second pair

That leaves a hole on the left side with McAvoy. Lauzon has looked like he belongs in the NHL but belonging in the NHL and playing against the best of the best every night are different things. I like his jam in regards to protecting McAvoy but I'm really hoping we have a Zboril/Vaak complete surprise in 2021.

Marshy-Bergy-Smith
1. I'd like to see what Craig Smith could do with these two. I actually think he's a real good fit.
Bjork-Krejci-Pasta
2.If Bjork can't crack it with Krejci and the rocket richard trophy winner, we dump him.............but I think the kid can pot 20-25 with these two
Debrusk-Coyle-Kase
3. Lotta speed and Coyle is nasty down low, love this line
Ritchie-Studnicka-Kuraly
4. Mix of skill, toughness, speed
Wagner/Lindholm

 

[Blowfish]

The thought of Chara playing for another team makes me sick to my stomach. This team can’t act like they haven’t relied on him heavily these last two seasons. Sure, he’s no longer a #1 but he played against top lines all year for a presidents trophy winning team. If management can’t see he’s worth whatever money we have left to offer then I simply can’t deal.

Chara was in the top 5 +/- Dman 2019 2020 one spot below Hedman and one spot above McAvoy last year.

I want Chara back...

 

[Blowfish]

1. McAvoy
2. Carlo
............
4. Gryzz
.............
5. Lauzon
6. Moore/Miller/Clifton
.........................................
unknown: Vaak/Zboril

McAvoy is a clear cut #1 guy. Everyone thinks of "bubble" Carlo when calling him a #3 or even a #4 but I thought for many stretches the last two years, he was our most consistent guy. He's a #2, anchors the second pair for sure.

Gryz to me can easily play in the top 4. He's better defensively than Krug and easily a better skater. I like him with Carlo on the second pair

That leaves a hole on the left side with McAvoy. Lauzon has looked like he belongs in the NHL but belonging in the NHL and playing against the best of the best every night are different things. I like his jam in regards to protecting McAvoy but I'm really hoping we have a Zboril/Vaak complete surprise in 2021.

Marshy-Bergy-Smith
1. I'd like to see what Craig Smith could do with these two. I actually think he's a real good fit.
Bjork-Krejci-Pasta
2.If Bjork can't crack it with Krejci and the rocket richard trophy winner, we dump him.............but I think the kid can pot 20-25 with these two
Debrusk-Coyle-Kase
3. Lotta speed and Coyle is nasty down low, love this line
Ritchie-Studnicka-Kuraly
4. Mix of skill, toughness, speed
Wagner/Lindholm

This was a perfect post until I read "Ritchie"....

 

[Fenian24]

I think zboril will end up better then hannifin anyway . Book it. Yes I said that.

So using this logic Calgary trades Zboril for Hanafin straight up? Weren't you moving Zboril the other day for Hanafin with "book it" Senyshyn??

 

[Fenian24]

This was a perfect post until I read "Ritchie"....

Bedsides the fact that I would love Ryan Reaves here watching your head explode as Sweeney deals a young prospect for a 30+, huge, physical winger would get 2021 off to a great start.

(I would love Reaves on the fourth line with Kuraly and Frederic)

 

[Blowfish]

Bedsides the fact that I would love Ryan Reaves here watching your head explode as Sweeney deals a young prospect for a 30+, huge, physical winger would get 2021 off to a great start.

(I would love Reaves on the fourth line with Kuraly and Frederic)

Not a bad option for the 4th line...
Talent Analysis

Reaves is a textbook role player. He isn’t a flashy skater or nifty stickhandler; instead he focuses on aspects of the game like physical play and grinding it out in the corners. He has good size and strength, as well as an athletic background. His father played with Winnipeg in the Canadian Football League. Reaves possesses a good work ethic and attitude, and is the type of player who can lead by example.

 

[Fenian24]

So as everybody is making trades up saying "Sweeney can't give up another first" does that include this years? I know scouts look at previous seasons and project a few years down the line but with most of the CHL having shortened seasons, seasons that will not reflect players potential based on rule changes, etc is this years first really worth that much?

 

[Blowfish]

So as everybody is making trades up saying "Sweeney can't give up another first" does that include this years? I know scouts look at previous seasons and project a few years down the line but with most of the CHL having shortened seasons, seasons that will not reflect players potential based on rule changes, etc is this years first really worth that much?

Good question - Probably a good year to give up a first not being able to see the full capability of younger players skillset in a shortened mangled up covid plagued season.

 

[Blowfish]

Bedsides the fact that I would love Ryan Reaves here watching your head explode as Sweeney deals a young prospect for a 30+, huge, physical winger would get 2021 off to a great start.

(I would love Reaves on the fourth line with Kuraly and Frederic)

I know we disagree every blue moon lol however I just want to stress I have no issues with big physical players but they need to come with some ability especially skating as a strength...i hate watching players chase the play and unfortunately that's what they ended up with in Backes. Everyone wants a Tom Wilson. Would love him on the bruins. I just don't want to see slow lumbering ineffective players on the ice (also know as Peter Cehlarik).

What the bruins need is a young Shawn Thorton...can skate, strong effective puck pursuit, create scoring chances, play some pk, and can pot a few himself...

 

[Greek_physique]

What the bruins need is a young Shawn Thorton...can skate, strong effective puck pursuit, create scoring chances, play some pk, and can pot a few himself...

I think we could have someone like that already...Frederic...what he needs tho, is someone to teach him the ropes - ala Matt Martin

 

[BAD BOY]

Not a bad option for the 4th line...
Talent Analysis

Reaves is a textbook role player. He isn’t a flashy skater or nifty stickhandler; instead he focuses on aspects of the game like physical play and grinding it out in the corners. He has good size and strength, as well as an athletic background. His father played with Winnipeg in the Canadian Football League. Reaves possesses a good work ethic and attitude, and is the type of player who can lead by example.

I see Frederic in that role but younger

 

[Root]

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
DeBrusk-Coyle-Smith
Ritchie-Krejci-Kase/Studnicka
Frederic-Kuraly-Wagner

Lauzon-McAvoy
Gryz-Carlo
Zboril/Chara-Miller/Clifton

Rask
Halak


Sign Chara. Shortened season, lots of back to backs, hopefully he is okay being the #6/#7 and being a mentor to the young guys.

For as much shit as Chara got for his play in the bubble I think a big part of the problem was Krug did not play at the same level that he did during the 2019 playoff run and, for as much as the Bruins love Gryz, they clearly don't completely trust him in a top 4 role against the best teams. The result was Chara being the only left side defenseman they trusted in a defensive role and he took on a lot of hard minutes. For me, a solid top-4 left shot defenseman was and remains our biggest need. Hopefully a young kid steps up, I think Lauzon will be good. Chara is a good guy to keep around and a no brainer as it stands right now.

Nick Ritchie just turned 25 and has averaged over 30 points per season in his career. Two seasons ago he was at over half a point per game. Clearly he needs to get in shape but the Bruins need to work with him and give him chances. There is a talented/unique player there. Obviously, if he comes in completely out of shape then that changes things, but if he's ready to go I want to see him get an extended look because he has proven he can produce at a better clip than Bjork and Kuhlman.

Studnicka, Frederic and Lauzon...I love these three players. Bruins need to keep all three, they are talented and all high character/leaders.

 

[PB37]

I hope the Bruins are in the market for Stamkos! He's one of the very few players in the league that is worth the money. I would give up half our organization to get him.

I can't see Tampa trading a top star to one of their rivals for the Eastern Conference crown.

 

[mjhfb]

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
DeBrusk-Coyle-Smith
Ritchie-Krejci-Kase/Studnicka
Frederic-Kuraly-Wagner

Lauzon-McAvoy
Gryz-Carlo
Zboril/Chara-Miller/Clifton

Rask
Halak


Sign Chara. Shortened season, lots of back to backs, hopefully he is okay being the #6/#7 and being a mentor to the young guys.

For as much shit as Chara got for his play in the bubble I think a big part of the problem was Krug did not play at the same level that he did during the 2019 playoff run and, for as much as the Bruins love Gryz, they clearly don't completely trust him in a top 4 role against the best teams. The result was Chara being the only left side defenseman they trusted in a defensive role and he took on a lot of hard minutes. For me, a solid top-4 left shot defenseman was and remains our biggest need. Hopefully a young kid steps up, I think Lauzon will be good. Chara is a good guy to keep around and a no brainer as it stands right now.

Nick Ritchie just turned 25 and has averaged over 30 points per season in his career. Two seasons ago he was at over half a point per game. Clearly he needs to get in shape but the Bruins need to work with him and give him chances. There is a talented/unique player there. Obviously, if he comes in completely out of shape then that changes things, but if he's ready to go I want to see him get an extended look because he has proven he can produce at a better clip than Bjork and Kuhlman.

Studnicka, Frederic and Lauzon...I love these three players. Bruins need to keep all three, they are talented and all high character/leaders.

It sure would solve a lot if he could step in, its just whether you want a kid who only played 19 games last year matching up against top lines as the #1LD. Yes, maybe he can handle it. Or maybe its too much and you kill his confidence.

 

[Root]

It sure would solve a lot if he could step in, its just whether you want a kid who only played 19 games last year matching up against top lines as the #1LD. Yes, maybe he can handle it. Or maybe its too much and you kill his confidence.

I agree, it is far from ideal. But looking at what they have right now I think he might be the best option. In an ideal word they would trade for a top 4 left defenseman and everyone would slot back where they should be...

 

[Ratty]

I can't see Tampa trading a top star to one of their rivals for the Eastern Conference crown.

Also, consider that Stamkos has a no-trade. Why, after winning a SC and settling in a very desirable area, would he want to uproot his family where there is no financial advantage (indeed a disadvantage) in doing so?

 

[goalieman40]

Marshy-Bergy-Smith
1. I'd like to see what Craig Smith could do with these two. I actually think he's a real good fit.
Bjork-Krejci-Pasta
2.If Bjork can't crack it with Krejci and the rocket richard trophy winner, we dump him.............but I think the kid can pot 20-25 with these two
Debrusk-Coyle-Kase
3. Lotta speed and Coyle is nasty down low, love this line
Ritchie-Studnicka-Kuraly
4. Mix of skill, toughness, speed
Wagner/Lindholm

i like this, even just to give it a try early in the season. I think they need to test out shuffling the lines. Chicago used to do it all the time with Toews and Kane - split them up, reunite, split..

 

[Ratty]

The other thought I would not move Studnicka in a deal for Hanifin any other prospect I would. I would for Laine or a young goal scorer like him. Not necessarily him but like him.

My deal would look like this.. It would involve Calgary and the Bruins because I think they match up well. This is just IMO .



Calgary: Beecher, Bjork, Kase, UV
Boston : Hanifin , Bennett


It’s a win now and for the future move for bruins. The flames get young players they keep with them or latter can flip if they don’t want them. The money works salary wise .. I think lol

Love to have Laine, an outstanding goal scorer, on this team and would give a lot to get him. But how can it be a "win for the future" for the Bruins if he's only signed for one more year? I realize there will be cap money available, but there's no guarantee he'll re-sign.

 

[smack66]

1. McAvoy
2. Carlo
............
4. Gryzz
.............
5. Lauzon
6. Moore/Miller/Clifton
.........................................
unknown: Vaak/Zboril

McAvoy is a clear cut #1 guy. Everyone thinks of "bubble" Carlo when calling him a #3 or even a #4 but I thought for many stretches the last two years, he was our most consistent guy. He's a #2, anchors the second pair for sure.

Gryz to me can easily play in the top 4. He's better defensively than Krug and easily a better skater. I like him with Carlo on the second pair

That leaves a hole on the left side with McAvoy. Lauzon has looked like he belongs in the NHL but belonging in the NHL and playing against the best of the best every night are different things. I like his jam in regards to protecting McAvoy but I'm really hoping we have a Zboril/Vaak complete surprise in 2021.

Marshy-Bergy-Smith
1. I'd like to see what Craig Smith could do with these two. I actually think he's a real good fit.
Bjork-Krejci-Pasta
2.If Bjork can't crack it with Krejci and the rocket richard trophy winner, we dump him.............but I think the kid can pot 20-25 with these two
Debrusk-Coyle-Kase
3. Lotta speed and Coyle is nasty down low, love this line
Ritchie-Studnicka-Kuraly
4. Mix of skill, toughness, speed
Wagner/Lindholm

like it except for Bjork. I just dont see what others see. obviously im not a scout, but I hope Sweeney was right in giving him a 3 year deal