Speculation: 2019 Off-Season Thread - Part 5

[These Are The Days]

Legit my face if we were to sign Maroon too

The salt is gonna amazing if it was to happen

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Where is this Maroon talk coming from?

 

[Todd1a]

Where is this Maroon talk coming from?

Lol watch it happen we sign maroon for 1 year 1 million per year before point lol

 

[CupsOverCash]

Where is this Maroon talk coming from?

Wouldnt be the worst move especially after trading two of our heaviest players away. I dont think there is actual talk just an idea mentioned by a few on here. Is Maroon really that much of an upgrade on Erne?

 

[The Macho King]

Just for the record, I don't think size matters either when we're talking about individual players, but I do think it matters when your entire team is that small. We got absolutely dominated up front by a bigger, stronger Columbus team and we didn't have anyone to counter it. When the refs start letting things go and the bigger guys can throw their weight around a bit more and not be punished for it, a bunch of 190lb speed guys isn't going to get it done.

I'm honestly a bit concerned about how this team is constructed.

PS: This isn't cause Erne is gone. Erne didn't do anything with his weight anyway. Neither did Miller. You gotta use it effectively and not just have it. Having a guy who's 6'4 220 doesn't matter if he's a cupcake.

Anderson was disruptive because he was hitting our big D and was excellent on the forecheck, and the BJs were disciplined as hell in the NZ.

I still don't think size is an issue. We outhit them big time in that series.

And I also don't really see the difference if a guy is 195 and hitting you versus 201.

 

[Rschmitz]

Maroon is too slow to be considered a serious option by our management.

 

[These Are The Days]

Maroon is too slow to be considered a serious option by our management.

Ohhhhhhhh???????

Jon Cooper can't hear you over the sound of all that awesome he's gonna think Maroon is if he were signed by us

 

[Master P]

Why are we talking about Maroon all of a sudden?

 

[Felonious Python]

Why are we talking about Maroon all of a sudden?

It's August 15th.

 

[Todd1a]

Why are we talking about Maroon all of a sudden?

He Is a cooper guy

 

[These Are The Days]

Why are we talking about Maroon all of a sudden?

Because 22 years old is still too young for some of these Crunch guys to be rookies

 

[Rschmitz]

Ohhhhhhhh???????

Jon Cooper can't hear you over the sound of all that awesome he's gonna think Maroon is if he were signed by us

I like Maroon, but this organization does not. Slower forwards that play here do not stay for long.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Stamkos Cirelli Killorn

Gourde Point Kuch

Palat Johnson Jospeh

Volkov Paquette Stephens


This is what I would like to see as the starting 12. Obv line combos will get changed.

 

[God King Fudge]

If Volkov takes a spot, it's gotta be a top 6 spot. I don't think he can fit a grinding role.

Stamkos-Cirelli-Volkov
Johnson-Point-Kucherov
Killorn-Joseph-Verhaeghe
Palat-Paquette-Martel

 

[Crunchrulz]

Said it before and I will EVERY time this name comes up; Maroon is a "Cujo" type player. You do not know which personality he is going to have from one game to the next, let alone for an entire season. He had tons of incentive playing at home last season and he did well. Unless he opts to make the highly doubtful family move to Tampa Bay, he will have that distraction should he sign here. When he is motivated, I would welcome him to the organization. If he is going to be the Maroon that we saw more often than not in Syracuse when he was younger and have seen several times in the NHL, no way in heck do I want him to cause a CANCER to the morale of this team.
Due to CAP issues, our time for a Cup with this group is getting shorter; do we really want to take a chance on losing another year of opportunity by signing a potential fourth line head case to cause hate and discontent?

 

[CupsOverCash]

Said it before and I will EVERY time this name comes up; Maroon is a "Cujo" type player. You do not know which personality he is going to have from one game to the next, let alone for an entire season. He had tons of incentive playing at home last season and he did well. Unless he opts to make the highly doubtful family move to Tampa Bay, he will have that distraction should he sign here. When he is motivated, I would welcome him to the organization. If he is going to be the Maroon that we saw more often than not in Syracuse when he was younger and have seen several times in the NHL, no way in heck do I want him to cause a CANCER to the morale of this team.
Due to CAP issues, our time for a Cup with this group is getting shorter; do we really want to take a chance on losing another year of opportunity by signing a potential fourth line head case to cause hate and discontent?

If there is any doubt about any of that I doubt we would bring him on board. I think if we make any more moves it will be at or before the deadline imo. I think we go with what we have now to camp. See if there are some rooks who can stick.

 

[BeingTheThunder]

Bump that Maroon talk. Only move I want to happen now is Point getting signed. Anything else is going to be an annoyance.

 

[TampaJay]

Just for the record, I don't think size matters either when we're talking about individual players, but I do think it matters when your entire team is that small. We got absolutely dominated up front by a bigger, stronger Columbus team and we didn't have anyone to counter it. When the refs start letting things go and the bigger guys can throw their weight around a bit more and not be punished for it, a bunch of 190lb speed guys isn't going to get it done.

I'm honestly a bit concerned about how this team is constructed.

PS: This isn't cause Erne is gone. Erne didn't do anything with his weight anyway. Neither did Miller. You gotta use it effectively and not just have it. Having a guy who's 6'4 220 doesn't matter if he's a cupcake.

I share your concern about how this team is constructed and I also agree that neither Miller or Erne were a massive physical presence compared to power forwards like Wilson or Anderson. But you are looking at just one side of the equation… dishing out the hits. It is the other side of the equation – taking the hits – that bites us in the playoffs when the whistles are swallowed. No matter how tough our small forwards like Gourde are, eventually the laws of physics rule. I go back to the WSH series where our forwards literally got pounded into submission, not because they were mentally soft, but because of the cumulative effect of getting hit by guys 40lbs heavier repeatedly. To deny that it is a factor is just not logical. Heavier players like Brian Boyle, Miller, etc., even though they aren’t big hitters are much better able to withstand the hits. Size/weight does matter.

 

[ccman68]

Maroon is a pretty similar player to Erne just a bit better. If we wanted someone like that we wouldn’t have traded Erne.

We don’t need size either. If Vasy plays average, Hedman is at 100% and we don’t choke the first game giving Columbus the mental advantage then we are the ones doing the sweeping.

You people remind me of Jim Rutherford with the way Wilson is still living in your head.

 

[God King Fudge]

Maroon is a pretty similar player to Erne just a bit better. If we wanted someone like that we wouldn’t have traded Erne.

We don’t need size either. If Vasy plays average, Hedman is at 100% and we don’t choke the first game giving Columbus the mental advantage then we are the ones doing the sweeping.

You people remind me of Jim Rutherford with the way Wilson is still living in your head.

 

[Master P]

Maroon is a pretty similar player to Erne just a bit better. If we wanted someone like that we wouldn’t have traded Erne.

We don’t need size either. If Vasy plays average, Hedman is at 100% and we don’t choke the first game giving Columbus the mental advantage then we are the ones doing the sweeping.

You people remind me of Jim Rutherford with the way Wilson is still living in your head.

?

 

[God King Fudge]

Guys, it's worth noting if literally everything about our game was different in the playoffs, we would have had a different outcome.

 

[DFC]

Bump that Maroon talk. Only move I want to happen now is Point getting signed. Anything else is going to be an annoyance.

That's where I'm at. We took a flyer on Shattenkirk. I'm fine with that. Now we'll have some fresh blood in the form of rookies.

 

[Todd1a]

 

[These Are The Days]

Awwwwww shit boyeeee!!!! Get him if you can. Never pass up talent. Who says the likes of Schenn, Rutta and Masin have to be here? If the kid can earn a spot sign him.