2019 Entry Draft Thread: Part IV

[Vachon23]

Mock so far, Mrb1p is Vegas, Habs76 is NJ, Janne Niinimaa is Arizona and MasterMatt25 is Dallas.
Not sure if they made trades to add picks but i just kept all our initial picks.

Round One
1. Chicago Blackhawks: Jack Hughes, C, USA NTDP (USHL)
2. New York Rangers: Kaapo Kakko, RW, TPS (Liiga)
3. Los Angeles Kings: Kirby Dach, C, Saskatoon (WHL)
4. Detroit Red Wings: Bowen Byram, LHD, Vancouver (WHL)
5. Philadelphia Flyers (from Ottawa Senators via Colorado): Dylan Cozens, C, Lethbridge (WHL)
6. New Jersey Devils: Vasili Podkolzin, RW, St. Petersburg (MHL)
7. Colorado Avalanche (from Philadelphia Flyers): Peyton Krebs, C, Kootenay (WHL)
8. Florida Panthers: Alex Turcotte, C, USA NTDP (USHL)
9. Arizona Coyotes: Matthew Boldy, LW, USA NTDP (USHL)
10. St. Louis Blues: Philip Broberg, LHD, AIK (Allsvenskan)
11. Edmonton Oilers: Trevor Zegras, C, USA NTDP (USHL)
12. Carolina Hurricanes: Victor Soderstrom, RHD, Brynas (SuperElit)
13. Vancouver Canucks: Moritz Seider, RHD, Manheim (DEL)
14. Nashville Predators (from Anaheim Ducks): Artur Kaliyev, RW, Hamilton (OHL)
15. Buffalo Sabres: Raphael Lavoie, C, Halifax (QMJHL)
16. Minnesota Wild: Connor McMichael, C, London (OHL)
17. Dallas Stars: Ryan Suzuki, C, Barrie (OHL)
18. Colorado Avalanche: Pavel Dorofeyev, LW, Magnitogorsk (MHL)
19. Pittsburgh Penguins: Bobby Brink, RW, Sioux City (USHL)
20. Montreal Canadiens: Matthew Robertson, LHD, Edmonton (WHL)
21. Boston Bruins: Spencer Knight, G, USA NTDP (USHL)
22. Washington Capitals: Cole Caufield, RW, USA NTDP (USHL)
23. Columbus Blue Jackets: Alex Newhook, C, Victoria (BCHL)
24. Anaheim Ducks (from Nashville Predators): Jakob Pelletier, LW, Moncton (QMJHL)
25. Los Angeles Kings (from Toronto Maple Leafs): Thomas Harley, LHD, Mississauga (OHL)
26. Vegas Golden Knights: Nicholas Robertson, LW, Peterborough (OHL)
27. Buffalo Sabres (from San Jose Sharks): Cam York, LHD, USA NTDP (USHL)
28. New York Islanders: Brett Leason, C, Prince Albert (WHL)
29. Detroit Red Wings (from Winnipeg Jets): Lassi Thomson, RHD, Kelowna (WHL)
30. Calgary Flames: Nolan Foote, LW, Kelowna (WHL)
31. New York Rangers (from Tampa Bay Lightning): Nils Hoglander, LW, Rogle (SHL)

Round Two
32. Toronto Maple Leafs (from Los Angeles Kings): Patrik Puistola, LW, Tappara (Jr. A SM-liiga)
33. Chicago Blackhawks: Albin Grewe, RW, Djurgarden (SuperElit)
34. Winnipeg Jets (from Detroit Red Wings): Mikko Kokkonen, LHD, Jukurit (Liiga)
35. Ottawa Senators: Samuel Poulin, RW, Sherbrooke (QMJHL)
36. New Jersey Devils: Ville Heinola, LHD, Lukko (Jr. A SM-liiga)
37. Tampa Bay Lightning (from Philadelphia Flyers): Phillip Tomasino, C, Niagara (OHL)
38. Ottawa Senators (from Florida Panthers via San Jose): Yegor Afanasyev, C, Muskegon (USHL)
39. Arizona Coyotes: Kaeden Korczak, RHD, Kelowna (WHL)
40. St. Louis Blues: Alex Vlasic, LHD, USA NTDP (USHL)
41. New York Rangers: Tobias Bjornfot, LHD, Djurgarden (SuperElit)
42. Edmonton Oilers: Ryan Johnson, LHD, Sioux Falls (USHL)
43. Carolina Hurricanes: Maxim Cajkovic, RW, Saint John (QMJHL)
44. Vancouver Canucks: Simon Holmstrom, RW, HV71 (SuperElit)
45. Anaheim Ducks: Vladislav Kolyachonok, LHD, London (OHL)
46. Nashville Predators (from Buffalo Sabres via Carolina): Nathan Legare, RW, Baie-Comeau (QMJHL)
47. Minnesota Wild: Anttoni Honka, RHD, JYP (Liiga)
48. Dallas Stars: Marcus Kallionkieli, LW, Sioux City (USHL)
49. Colorado Avalanche: Mads Sogaard, G, Medicine Hat (WHL)
50. Pittsburgh Penguins: Henry Thrun, LHD, USA NTDP (USHL)
51. Montreal Canadiens: Jordan Spence, RHD, Moncton (QMJHL)
52. Boston Bruins: John Beecher, C, USA NTDP (USHL)
53. Washington Capitals: Shane Pinto, C, Lincoln (USHL)
54. Montreal Canadiens (from Columbus Blue Jackets via Vegas): Jamieson Rees, C, Sarnia (OHL)
55. New York Rangers (from Nashville Predators via Anaheim): Ilya Nikolaev, C, Yaroslavl (MHL)
56. Toronto Maple Leafs: Artemi Kniazev, LHD, Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
57. Vegas Golden Knights: Yegor Spiridonov, C, Magnitogorsk (MHL)
58. San Jose Sharks: Drew Helleson, RHD, USA NTDP (USHL)
59. New York Rangers (from New York Islanders via Vegas and Detroit): Marshall Warren, LHD, USA NTDP (USHL)
60. Winnipeg Jets: Samuel Fagemo, LW, Frolunda (SHL)
61. Florida Panthers (from Calgary Flames via NY Islanders): Valentin Nussbaumer, C, Shawinigan (QMJHL)
62. Philadelphia Flyers (from Tampa Bay Lightning): Henri Nikkanen, C, Jukurit (Liiga)

Round Three
63. New York Rangers (from Los Angeles Kings): Ilya Konovalov, G, Yaroslavl (KHL)
64. Arizona Coyotes (from Chicago Blackhawks): Robert Mastrosimone, LW, Chicago (USHL)
65. Detroit Red Wings: Daniil Gutik, LW, Yaroslavl (MHL)
66. Colorado Avalanche (from Ottawa Senators): Josh Williams, RW, Edmonton (WHL)
67. Colorado Avalanche (from New Jersey Devils via Edmonton and Philadelphia): Jake Lee, LHD, Seattle (WHL)
68. Arizona Coyotes (from Philadelphia Flyers): John Farinacci, C, Dexter School (HS-MA)
69. Nashville Predators (from Florida Panthers): Nikita Alexandrov, C, Charlottetown (QMJHL)
70. Arizona Coyotes: Billy Constantinou, RHD, Niagara (OHL)
71. St. Louis Blues: Hunter Jones, G, Peterborough (OHL)
72. New York Rangers: Michal Teply, LW, Liberec (Czech Extraliga)
73. Tampa Bay Lightning (from Edmonton Oilers via Florida): Vladislav Firstov, LW, Waterloo (USHL)
74. Carolina Hurricanes: Simon Lundmark, RHD, Linkoping (SuperElit)
75. Vancouver Canucks: Blake Murray, C, Sudbury (OHL)
76. New Jersey Devils (from Anaheim Ducks): Ben Brinkman, LHD, Minnesota (NCAA)
77. Boston Bruins (from Buffalo Sabres): Michael Vukojevic, LHD, Kitchener (OHL)
78. Minnesota Wild: Martin Hugo Has, RHD, Tappara (Jr. A SM-liiga)
79. Dallas Stars: Nikita Okhotyuk, LHD, Ottawa (OHL)
80. Colorado Avalanche: Oleg Zaytsev, C, Red Deer (WHL)
81. Ottawa Senators (from Pittsburgh Penguins): Matej Blumel, LW, Waterloo (USHL)
82. Montreal Canadiens: Alex Beaucage, RW/LW, Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL)

I love the Robertson and Beaucage pick !

 

[NotProkofievian]

His motor and mobility really stands out immediately, the kid never stops moving . Hard backchecker too.

That's true, and he is very fast, with a powerful shot. However, did it ever seem like he was ahead of the play in that video?

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

That's true, and he is very fast, with a powerful shot. However, did it ever seem like he was ahead of the play in that video?

Not really, he was always ''a part of the action'' but not necessarily the guy that made things happen. I stand by my opinion that between the two, Dach has the better offensive upside. Cozens has the highest floor though, by a pretty good margin. It's top 2 C or bust for Dach, while Cozens can easily be a Danault type . It's hard not to like his easy pro upside.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I like my C's to be pass first guys. That alone would keep Dach above Cozens for me, unless I had serious questions about Dachs upside. Which I obviously don't.

Cozens is easier to like because he's a very pro ready polished player at this point in time. Upside is Dachs all day long.

 

[Mrb1p]

Not really, he was always ''a part of the action'' but not necessarily the guy that made things happen. I stand by my opinion that between the two, Dach has the better offensive upside. Cozens has the highest floor though, by a pretty good margin. It's top 2 C or bust for Dach, while Cozens can easily be a Danault type . It's hard not to like his easy pro upside.

Something would have to go really wrong if he was as bad as Danault offensively.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Something would have to go really wrong if he was as bad as Danault offensively.

Oh I don't think he will, he's got a good shot and a better all around tool box. I was just pointing out that his worst case scenario is still pretty good.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Not really, he was always ''a part of the action'' but not necessairly the guy that made things happen. I stand by my opinion that between the two, Dach has the better offensive upside. Cozens has the highest floor though, by a pretty good margin. It's top 2 C or bust for Dach, while Cozens can easily be a Danault type .

Yeah, I think that's sensible. Dach gives me some busty vibes, too.

 

[Mrb1p]

Yeah, I think that's sensible. Dach gives me some busty vibes, too.

Busty you say

 

[NotProkofievian]

The other thing is that just because Dylan is a C in junior doesn't mean he'll stay there in the pros. Thinking about it, if he were a winger, I'd probably be gushing over him. "What a shot! He'll be a monster on the forecheck with his size and speed! Perfect compliment to Kotkaniemi!"

Last year, in the playoffs against Red Deer I seem to remember him playing on the wing and he seemed quite impressive.

 

[Mrb1p]

The other thing is that just because Dylan is a C in junior doesn't mean he'll stay there in the pros. Thinking about it, if he were a winger, I'd probably be gushing over him. "What a shot! He'll be a monster on the forecheck with his size and speed! Perfect compliment to Kotkaniemi!"

Last year, in the playoffs against Red Deer I seem to remember him playing on the wing and he seemed quite impressive.

He plays wings at times, still. This should just be a plus to his value, hes very versatile. I think he does look more active on the wing and more dangerous. His speed barreling down the wing and his shot is beautiful, but as a C hes not a bad option at all.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Légaré vs Beaucage, who you got and why?

 

[Vachon23]

Sport Testing Combine Showcases On and Off Ice Strengths – Sherwin-Williams CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game

Samuel Bolduc had really good test and Joël Bouchard know him really well. I think he could possibly be a Habs pick

 

[Mrb1p]

Brett Leason is a much better skater than it appears on the ice, it seems. Damn, I didn't expect that at all.

Cozens dominating the on-ice combine tho

 

[philipsson]

Sport Testing Combine Showcases On and Off Ice Strengths – Sherwin-Williams CHL/NHL Top Prospects Game

Samuel Bolduc had really good test and Joël Bouchard know him really well. I think he could possibly be a Habs pick

Draft Kaliyev, put him LD, problems solved

 

[WeThreeKings]

The age old debate of the combine.

Do you like the kids who do great on the ice despite not scoring high and recognize that they have more potential when they develop physically?

Or do you like the kids who dominate the tests now?

I think the scores with the puck are more telling. The discrepancy between that and without the puck. Very rarely do the hands catch up to the feet.

 

[Mrb1p]

The age old debate of the combine.

Do you like the kids who do great on the ice despite not scoring high and recognize that they have more potential when they develop physically?

Or do you like the kids who dominate the tests now?

I think the scores with the puck are more telling. The discrepancy between that and without the puck. Very rarely do the hands catch up to the feet.

Athleticism is great to have in any case, but it might show a lesser ceiling.

Is there ever a guy that dominated the combine that at least didn't become a bottom liner ? Tinordi may be the only one that comes to mind, but he got an unfair advantage on a lot of moves because he was so damn big.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Athleticism is great to have in any case, but it might show a lesser ceiling.

Is there ever a guy that dominated the combine that at least didn't become a bottom liner ? Tinordi may be the only one that comes to mind, but he got an unfair advantage on a lot of moves because he was so damn big.

Mike Winther.

 

[Mrb1p]

Mike Winther.

He came in first in the bench press and that's it... Wasn't top ten in any other tests for the NHL combine.

 

[NotProkofievian]

The age old debate of the combine.

Do you like the kids who do great on the ice despite not scoring high and recognize that they have more potential when they develop physically?

Or do you like the kids who dominate the tests now?

I think the scores with the puck are more telling. The discrepancy between that and without the puck. Very rarely do the hands catch up to the feet.

One other thing is that they don't report the scores. So it might be meaningless if all the players are more or less the same. Like, if someone's first, but last place was a tenth of a second behind, who f***ing cares?

 

[Mrb1p]

One other thing is that they don't report the scores. So it might be meaningless if all the players are more or less the same. Like, if someone's first, but last place was a tenth of a second behind, who ****ing cares?

NHL combine has average and shows the top ten, so thats great.

 

[philipsson]

I know you guys talked about it a whole lot, but looking strickly at stats, Kaliyev is one impressive guy. There seems to be a lot of Kaliyev "bashing" and a crazy ton of McMichael enthousiasts, but Kaliyev looks much more impressive (again, on a statistical basic, which is clearly not everything). I guess him floating and McMichael having a crazy good package is a big part of it. Arthur is having a huge season, statistically. 35G in 48 points is wow.

I guess my point is, who would you rather draft if available around 20-25..... Kaliyev/McMichael/Robertson/Suzuki or else ? What are the odds Kaliyev keeps on putting points in the NHL ?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I know you guys talked about it a whole lot, but looking strickly at stats, Kaliyev is one impressive guy. There seems to be a lot of Kaliyev "bashing" and a crazy ton of McMichael enthousiasts, but Kaliyev looks much more impressive (again, on a statistical basic, which is clearly not everything). I guess him floating and McMichael having a crazy good package is a big part of it. Arthur is having a huge season, statistically. 35G in 48 points is wow.

I guess my point is, who would you rather draft if available around 20-25..... Kaliyev/McMichael/Robertson/Suzuki or else ? What are the odds Kaliyev keeps on putting points in the NHL ?

McMichael and Robertson; the value of the C and D position at the NHL level just has more impact, so when you can draft guys who have top 4 or top 6 upside, at C or D, you have to do it.

I wouldnt draft Suzuki, we have his brother, they play similar games, I don't really see the value in investing another high end commodity in something that's, pretty much, a replica of what we already have.

I'd put Kaliyev third in that group. He's very similar to my evaluation of Zadina last year, he knows how to score goals, and does score goals, but his relative impact in other areas of the game, especially on offense, aren't very high, so hes not a play driver from the wing.

 

[philipsson]

McMichael and Robertson; the value of the C and D position at the NHL level just has more impact, so when you can draft guys who have top 4 or top 6 upside, at C or D, you have to do it.

I wouldnt draft Suzuki, we have his brother, they play similar games, I don't really see the value in investing another high end commodity in something that's, pretty much, a replica of what we already have.

I'd put Kaliyev third in that group. He's very similar to my evaluation of Zadina last year, he knows how to score goals, and does score goals, but his relative impact in other areas of the game, especially on offense, aren't very high, so hes not a play driver from the wing.

Complete, fast reply. I like that ! Thanks for your opinion

 

[Mrb1p]

I know you guys talked about it a whole lot, but looking strickly at stats, Kaliyev is one impressive guy. There seems to be a lot of Kaliyev "bashing" and a crazy ton of McMichael enthousiasts, but Kaliyev looks much more impressive (again, on a statistical basic, which is clearly not everything). I guess him floating and McMichael having a crazy good package is a big part of it. Arthur is having a huge season, statistically. 35G in 48 points is wow.

I guess my point is, who would you rather draft if available around 20-25..... Kaliyev/McMichael/Robertson/Suzuki or else ? What are the odds Kaliyev keeps on putting points in the NHL ?

McMichael is a big center, that skates well, has a head for the game and that can beat goalies from the outside, he wont be there.

Kaliyev may drop and at 20-25 thats awesome value, he does everything Robertson does but better, even float.
Robertson would be next in there and I'm hoping we snag him in the first if were picking in that range.
Suzuki will not be good value unless its in the second or 25+, at least, to me.

The only way Kaliyev doesnt at least translate to a PP specialist a la JVR/Galchenyuk is if he decides to pursue a career in badminton instead.

Edit: Don't know if you meant Matthew or Nich, answered for Nic, if its Matthew, bump him at #1B with McMike and he's not goign to be available in the 20s.

 

[TT1]

Légaré vs Beaucage, who you got and why?

I like Legare more right now. He has less offensive tools than Beaucage but he has a great engine (hard worker), type of guy you can put on the 1st line to the dirty work down low and he also has the talent to play with high end players. If he's available in the 2nd you can bet your house that MB/TT are picking him, he's an MB type player. Legare will probably go in the 1st tho, his style of play is appealing to NHL teams.

Beaucage has good hockey sense, good hands and a very good shot but he needs to work on his explosiveness. I really like both guys tho, if Beaucage worked on his explosiveness he'd be a 1st rounder. Beaucage seems to be the late bloomer type tho, he just keeps getting better. I love seeing prospects constantly improving and adding to their game, it's the guys who plateau that you have to worry about (regardless of how good they look in juniors).

Having talent is 1 thing but i think a lot of people disregard good work ethic and character when picking prospects (but to be fair that's harder info for us to find, we don't get to interview these kids like NHL teams do). Regardless of how much talent you have in juniors these kids need to have the drive to work and refine their game in order to be successful in the NHL.