2019 Entry Draft Thread: Part IV

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2019 Entry Draft Thread: Part III

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[montreal]

https://thehockeywriters.com/2019-nhl-draft-risers-december/

 

[The Great Weal]

Kakko is killing it again. And he is playing center.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Kakko is killing it again. And he is playing center.

 

[Mrb1p]

https://thehockeywriters.com/2019-nhl-draft-risers-december/

It's come to a point that I'm thrilled we can pick a guy like McMike even if we do the POs. Not even sure he's that worse from Newhook and Turcotte and I think I'm bumping my "top 16" to a "top 17" because of him.

Otherwise, how do you guys feel the Q crop is ? I don't get to watch enough Q games because the players there always suck, so I just get a few games for the top ones and ignore the rest, I'd rather look at the WHL/OHL/NCAA/Liiga play than Q...

I already made the opinion that I don't want anything to do with Lavoie, but what about Légaré, Simoneau Beaucage and Pelletier ?

 

[Mrb1p]

Kakko is killing it again. And he is playing center.

This is the year to stack up on first rounders, man. This is the year.

I wish we sent Petry away at the beginning of the year to a bubble team that won't make the POs... Darn it.

 

[Hope Of Glory]

So how does this board view Légaré now? I'm struggling a bit to rank him.

At first I thought he was a product of who he is playing with (and maybe still is) but 47 points in 34 games is pretty damn good. Can't ignore him the 2nd round now I think. Hell, he might not even make it that far with this kind of production.

 

[The Great Weal]

This is the year to stack up on first rounders, man. This is the year.

I wish we sent Petry away at the beginning of the year to a bubble team that won't make the POs... Darn it.

After Hughes/Kakko/Dach/Cozens there is quite the drop imo

 

[Mrb1p]

After Hughes/Kakko/Dach/Cozens there is quite the drop imo

Podkolzin would like a worh with you.

 

[Gabriiel40]

I made a chart for 4 scouting agencies to check what their rankings would be. Here are the results. Also added positions next to the player name. Used EliteProspects as reference for all of this chart.

	Mckeens	ISS	Future Considerations	Hockeyprospect.com	Total
Jack Hughes (C)	1	1	1	1	1
Dylan Cozens (C/RW)	2	4	5	6	3.666666667
Kaapo Kakko (RW)	3	2	2	2	2.333333333
Vasili Podkolzin (RW)	4	5	7	5	5.333333333
Kirby Dach (C)	5	3	3	3	3.666666667
Philip Broberg (LHD)	6	8	13	17	9
Raphael Lavoie (C/RW)	7	7	10	11	8
Matthew Boldy (LW)	8	10	9	8	9
Bowen Byram (LHD)	9	6	6	13	7
Ryan Suzuki (C)	10	9	12	14	10.33333333
Cole Caufield (C/RW)	11	19	15	29	15
Peyton Krebs (LW)	12	14	8	7	11.33333333
Alex Newhook (C)	13	11	26	9	16.66666667
Alex Turcotte (C)	14	13	4	4	10.33333333
Victor Soderstrom (RHD)	15	12	29	12	18.66666667
Matthew Robertson (LHD)	16	17	16	18	16.33333333
Cam York (LHD)	17	15	11	16	14.33333333
Trevor Zegras (C)	18	18	14	10	16.66666667
Nolan Foote (LW)	19	24	20	N/A	21
Arthur Kaliyev (LW)	20	N/A	25	N/A	22.5
Tobias Bjornfot (LHD)	21	27	51	N/A	33
Jakob Pelletier (LW)	22	N/A	35	28	28.5
Anttoni Honka (RHD)	23	N/A	22	27	22.5
Pavel Dorofeyev (LW/RW)	24	N/A	40	19	32
John Beecher (C)	25	N/A	21	31	23
Samuel Poulin (LW)	26	20	34	N/A	26.66666667
Nils Hoglander (LW)	27	N/A	54	N/A	40.5
Mikko Kokkonen (LHD)	28	N/A	33	N/A	30.5
Robert Mastrosimone (C)	29	N/A	86	N/A	57.5
Marshall Warren (LHD)	30	N/A	46	N/A	38
Lassi Thomson (RHD)	31	N/A	61	24	46
Matvei Guskov (C)	N/A	16	52	N/A	34
Alex Vlasic (LHD)	N/A	21	30	30	25.5
Josh Williams (RW)	N/A	22	69	N/A	45.5
Ilya Nikolayev (F)	N/A	23	71	N/A	47
Case McCarthy (RHD)	N/A	25	N/A	N/A	25
Michael Vukojevic (LHD)	N/A	26	65	N/A	45.5
Kaedan Korczak (RHD)	N/A	28	37	N/A	32.5
Thomas Harley (LHD)	N/A	29	56	N/A	42.5
Nikita Okhotyuk (LHD)	N/A	30	87	N/A	58.5
Michal Teply (LW)	N/A	31	85	N/A	58
Connor McMichael (C)	N/A	N/A	17	N/A	17
Moritz Seider (RHD)	N/A	N/A	19	25	19
Phillip Tomasino (C)	N/A	N/A	23	N/A	23
Maxim Cajkovic (RW/LW)	N/A	N/A	24	N/A	24
Tag Bertuzzi (C)	N/A	N/A	27	N/A	27
Nicholas Robertson (C/LW)	N/A	N/A	28	N/A	28
Artemi Knyazev (LHD)	N/A	N/A	31	N/A	31
Spencer Knight (G)	N/A	N/A	42	15	42
Hunter Jones (G)	N/A	N/A	89	20	89
Mads Sogaard (G)	N/A	N/A	N/A	21	21
Vladislav Kolyachonok (LHD)	N/A	N/A	N/A	22	22
Ryan Johnson (LHD)	N/A	N/A	48	23	48
Bobby Brink (RW)	N/A	N/A	75	26	75

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[Gabriiel40]

I could be convinced of current point totals and ga message played if you guys would like.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I could be convinced of current point totals and ga message played if you guys would like.

Sure, if you've got the time and it's not too much of a bother. Thanks ! Also, if I could make a suggestion, it might be more representative to do a separate thing for guys that are only ranked in 1 or 2 of the publications.

 

[Gabriiel40]

Sure, if you've got the time and it's not too much of a bother. Thanks ! Also, if I could make a suggestion, it might be more representative to do a separate thing for guys that are only ranked in 1 or 2 of the publications.

I thought about having a minimum of 2 or 3 rankings but that would have required me to go back through and do a bunch of copy and paste which I guess wouldn't be too bad. I'll see if I can separate them a bit and I'll also work on adding gp, points and ppg.

 

[Gabriiel40]

Sure, if you've got the time and it's not too much of a bother. Thanks ! Also, if I could make a suggestion, it might be more representative to do a separate thing for guys that are only ranked in 1 or 2 of the publications.

Updated the chart a little bit. Included point totals for the players and separated groups between those who are ranked in all circles and those who are only ranked in certain companies. I forgot to separate out the goalies, however there are only three of them currently ranked...I didn't bother readjusted the whole chart lol

	Mckeens	ISS	Future Considerations	Hockeyprospect.com	Average			Games Played	Points	Points per game
Jack Hughes (C)	1	1	1	1	1		Jack Hughes (C)	25	48	1.92
Dylan Cozens (C/RW)	2	4	5	6	3.666666667		Dylan Cozens (C/RW)	33	47	1.424242424
Kaapo Kakko (RW)	3	2	2	2	2.333333333		Kaapo Kakko (RW)	27	20	0.7407407407
Vasili Podkolzin (RW)	4	5	7	5	5.333333333		Vasili Podkolzin (RW)	10	7	0.7
Kirby Dach (C)	5	3	3	3	3.666666667		Kirby Dach (C)	35	42	1.2
Philip Broberg (LHD)	6	8	13	17	9		Philip Broberg (LHD)	27	7	0.2592592593
Raphael Lavoie (C/RW)	7	7	10	11	8		Raphael Lavoie (C/RW)	31	34	1.096774194
Matthew Boldy (LW)	8	10	9	8	9		Matthew Boldy (LW)	27	27	1
Bowen Byram (LHD)	9	6	6	13	7		Bowen Byram (LHD)	32	27	0.84375
Ryan Suzuki (C)	10	9	12	14	10.33333333		Ryan Suzuki (C)	31	36	1.161290323
Cole Caufield (C/RW)	11	19	15	29	15		Cole Caufield (C/RW)	27	30	1.111111111
Peyton Krebs (LW)	12	14	8	7	11.33333333		Peyton Krebs (LW)	32	38	1.1875
Alex Newhook (C)	13	11	26	9	16.66666667		Alex Newhook (C)	31	53	1.709677419
Alex Turcotte (C)	14	13	4	4	10.33333333		Alex Turcotte (C)	5	3	0.6
Victor Soderstrom (RHD)	15	12	29	12	18.66666667		Victor Soderstrom (RHD)	14	8	0.5714285714
Matthew Robertson (LHD)	16	17	16	18	16.33333333		Matthew Robertson (LHD)	30	21	0.7
Cam York (LHD)	17	15	11	16	14.33333333		Cam York (LHD)	26	17	0.6538461538
Trevor Zegras (C)	18	18	14	10	16.66666667		Trevor Zegras (C)	26	39	1.5
Not Ranked by all Organizations
Nolan Foote (LW)	19	24	20	N/A	21		Nolan Foote (LW)	33	32	0.9696969697
Arthur Kaliyev (LW)	20	N/A	25	N/A	22.5		Arthur Kaliyev (LW)	34	52	1.529411765
Tobias Bjornfot (LHD)	21	27	51	N/A	33		Tobias Bjornfot (LHD)	22	10	0.4545454545
Jakob Pelletier (LW)	22	N/A	35	28	28.5		Jakob Pelletier (LW)	33	50	1.515151515
Anttoni Honka (RHD)	23	N/A	22	27	22.5		Anttoni Honka (RHD)	15	4	0.2666666667
Pavel Dorofeyev (LW/RW)	24	N/A	40	19	32		Pavel Dorofeyev (LW/RW)	15	24	1.6
John Beecher (C)	25	N/A	21	31	23		John Beecher (C)	26	14	0.5384615385
Samuel Poulin (LW)	26	20	34	N/A	26.66666667		Samuel Poulin (LW)	34	35	1.029411765
Nils Hoglander (LW)	27	N/A	54	N/A	40.5		Nils Hoglander (LW)	25	7	0.28
Mikko Kokkonen (LHD)	28	N/A	33	N/A	30.5		Mikko Kokkonen (LHD)	28	11	0.3928571429
Robert Mastrosimone (C)	29	N/A	86	N/A	57.5		Robert Mastrosimone (C)	17	17	1
Marshall Warren (LHD)	30	N/A	46	N/A	38		Marshall Warren (LHD)	21	11	0.5238095238
Lassi Thomson (RHD)	31	N/A	61	24	46		Lassi Thomson (RHD)	34	22	0.6470588235
Matvei Guskov (C)	N/A	16	52	N/A	34		Matvei Guskov (C)	26	18	0.6923076923
Alex Vlasic (LHD)	N/A	21	30	30	25.5		Alex Vlasic (LHD)	27	11	0.4074074074
Josh Williams (RW)	N/A	22	69	N/A	45.5		Josh Williams (RW)	35	19	0.5428571429
Ilya Nikolayev (F)	N/A	23	71	N/A	47		Ilya Nikolayev (F)	25	12	0.48
Case McCarthy (RHD)	N/A	25	N/A	N/A	25		Case McCarthy (RHD)	27	13	0.4814814815
Michael Vukojevic (LHD)	N/A	26	65	N/A	45.5		Michael Vukojevic (LHD)	33	9	0.2727272727
Kaedan Korczak (RHD)	N/A	28	37	N/A	32.5		Kaedan Korczak (RHD)	35	17	0.4857142857
Thomas Harley (LHD)	N/A	29	56	N/A	42.5		Thomas Harley (LHD)	33	26	0.7878787879
Nikita Okhotyuk (LHD)	N/A	30	87	N/A	58.5		Nikita Okhotyuk (LHD)	23	4	0.1739130435
Michal Teply (LW)	N/A	31	85	N/A	58		Michal Teply (LW)	24	6	0.25
Connor McMichael (C)	N/A	N/A	17	N/A	17		Connor McMichael (C)	31	38	1.225806452
Moritz Seider (RHD)	N/A	N/A	19	25	19		Moritz Seider (RHD)	16	1	0.0625
Phillip Tomasino (C)	N/A	N/A	23	N/A	23		Phillip Tomasino (C)	32	32	1
Maxim Cajkovic (RW/LW)	N/A	N/A	24	N/A	24		Maxim Cajkovic (RW/LW)	29	20	0.6896551724
Tag Bertuzzi (C)	N/A	N/A	27	N/A	27		Tag Bertuzzi (C)	29	9	0.3103448276
Nicholas Robertson (C/LW)	N/A	N/A	28	N/A	28		Nicholas Robertson (C/LW)	20	21	1.05
Artemi Knyazev (LHD)	N/A	N/A	31	N/A	31		Artemi Knyazev (LHD)	29	18	0.6206896552
Vladislav Kolyachonok (LHD)	N/A	N/A	N/A	22	22		Vladislav Kolyachonok (LHD)	22	12	0.5454545455
Ryan Johnson (LHD)	N/A	N/A	48	23	48		Ryan Johnson (LHD)	19	8	0.4210526316
Bobby Brink (RW)	N/A	N/A	75	26	75		Bobby Brink (RW)	19	33	1.736842105
Goalies
Spencer Knight (G)	N/A	N/A	42	15	42		Spencer Knight (G)	21	0.923	2.32
Hunter Jones (G)	N/A	N/A	89	20	89		Hunter Jones (G)	30	0.921	2.7
Mads Sogaard (G)	N/A	N/A	N/A	21	21		Mads Sogaard (G)	19	0.931	2.39

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[Mrb1p]

I could be convinced of current point totals and ga message played if you guys would like.

I think you should order then by total ranking.

 

[Gabriiel40]

I think you should order then by total ranking.

I can check if there is an easy way to order it that doesn't require me to do it manually. No promises lol

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Thanks @Gabriiel40

 

[The Great Weal]

Podkolzin would like a worh with you.

Meh, I think Kravtsov was better in his draft year.

 

[Mrb1p]

Meh, I think Kravtsov was better in his draft year.

I don't know about that, and even if he was, is that really a bad thing ? Kravtsov's pretty good himself.

 

[The Great Weal]

I don't know about that, and even if he was, is that really a bad thing ? Kravtsov's pretty good himself.

Nope, but my point is that Podkolzin is easily behind Hughes, Kakko, Dach and Cozens.

 

[Mrb1p]

Nope, but my point is that Podkolzin is easily behind Hughes, Kakko, Dach and Cozens.

I'll wait before making a statement like that, Vasili is going to be 17 when he gets drafted and thats huge for me.

I'm also not sure any of Turcotte, Newhook, Zegras and Boldy are too far off Podkolzin and Dach.

 

[Gabriiel40]

What's your guys opinion on Thomas Harley? Seems to be a late 1st rounder currently but is putting up good numbers with mississauga.

 

[montreal]

was bored so I watched a little of Avrid Henrikson, he was facing Sioux Falls who have Ryan Johnson. Johnson is committed to Minnesota, looked smallish but had the skating, speed, mobility you want to see for the new NHL. He looked to be active in the offensive zone so I assume he's more offensive minded as I know nothing about him or where he ranks for the draft.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

So how does this board view Légaré now? I'm struggling a bit to rank him.

At first I thought he was a product of who he is playing with (and maybe still is) but 47 points in 34 games is pretty damn good. Can't ignore him the 2nd round now I think. Hell, he might not even make it that far with this kind of production.

He's definitely in the 2nd round now. And on the rise. Could end up as late 1st. One of those 25-40 players.

 

[Mrb1p]

Nope, but my point is that Podkolzin is easily behind Hughes, Kakko, Dach and Cozens.

But Dach and Cozens are easily behind Kakko and Hughes... and Kakko is easily behind Hughes...