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Guys I have my eyes on with our projected top 10 pick (+/-). Kaliyev, Broberg, Lavoie, Byram, are my favorite picks at this stage.

Kaliyev (LW):
- 6'-2", 190 lbs
- 13 goals in 13 games so far (31 in 68 games last year).
- The kid can score and we need this on our wings
- 10 to 20 range pick at this stage?

Lavoie (C/RW):
- 6'-4", 198 lbs
- 11 goals in 13 games so far (30 in 68 games last year).
- Big body that plays big and physical. Score big goals and protects the puck well down low
- 5 to 10 range pick at this stage

Newhook (C):
- 5'-11", 183 lbs
- 10 goals and 24 pts in 17 games. Hard to gauge how good he is cause he plays BCHL
- Top 10 fringe pick at this stage

Grewe (C/RW):
- 6'-0", 176 lbs
- 6 goals and 19 pts in 15 SuperElit games
- 0 pts in 2 SHL games as a 17 year old!
- Top 20 (+/-) pick at this stage

Byram (LD):
- 6'-1", 192 lbs
- 5 goals and 12 pts in 14 WHL games (6 goals in 60 games last year).
- Seems to be taking the next step and he don't turn 18 till next June!
- Top 5 pick and we would have to win one of the 3 draft lottery picks to get him IMO.

Broberg (LD)
- 6'-3", 198 lbs
- 3 pts in 12 Allsvenskan games
- 5 to 10 range pick at this stage
 
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TooLegitToQuit said:
If Kotka can score 20-30 goals and 60-70 pts per year, then yeah, I say this is very solid. I think the biggest issue at this stage is a PMD at LD to play with Weber and goal scoring wingers. We lack shooters and goal scoring threats on the wings

Gallagher, Drouin, Tatar, Lehkonen, Byron, Armia are decent current wingers but I'd prefer to see a sniper in this mix. We don't have it.

Suzuki can possibly fit that role but If we are getting picky, we need a Zadina or Svechnikov type.
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I’m hoping we get that LD in this draft, looks like there are a few of them.
 
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Heh
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It's funny to me, because much of the same group that would like a long term plan for Kotkaniemi were discussing why returning Hughes to the USHL woudn't be optimal for him.

So, I can't say I enjoy the black/white interpretations from some. Hughes has dominated the USHL to a historic level. He was ready to go the NCAA route (but he didn't accelerate in the end). Yet, he wouldn't be ready for the NHL this year. Being ready for one step doesn't imply you're ready for the next two.

I haven't see a single person here suggest Jesperi should go back to Jr A SM-Liiga, which is the equivalency here. Had he dominated Liiga like Barkov had then sure, there wouldn't be much suggesting he would benefit from being sent back. However, at no point did he look too good for Liiga last year like Hughes did in the USHL in his D-1.
 
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TooLegitToQuit said:
There are a few LD for sure! Will be interesting to see what teams target after the obvious BPA guys are taken and who may slip into our hands. I prefer the Habs to target two assets... A goal scoring winger (shoot first mentality type) and a PMD at LD.
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Agree, also wouldn’t mind that winger to have some size to him either. Byram is my dream but I don’t think he makes it out of the top 3-5.
 
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tooji said:
This is one of the deepest drafts in a while. I think we will get a pretty good talent no matter where we finish
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We get that phrase every draft, supposedly last year was one of the best draft in recent years

I'M high on kakko and Hughes though, Kakko with Kotka duo would just be insane since Kakko is supposed to be a better Laine, which is crazy.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Lavoie doesn't do it for me.
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Why not? Not an elite level skater?

I like his size/strength/goal scoring ability. I also am a big Mooseheads fan so I would have him higher than most would. I think the kid is a beast and he shows up in big games.

Were going to get a real good look at him and what he can do in the memorial cup. He is a older prospect in this draft year like Zadina though. Missed last years draft by a few days
 
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Ill hit the gym and i'll start a bit of redaction on the list of "Keep an eye on" for this draft.

If any of you have a few sleepers you can always PM them as I'm still not caught up on everyone.
 
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TooLegitToQuit said:
Why not? Not an elite level skater?

I like his size/strength/goal scoring ability. I also am a big Mooseheads fan so I would have him higher than most would. I think the kid is a beast and he shows up in big games.

Were going to get a real good look at him and what he can do in the memorial cup. He is a older prospect in this draft year like Zadina though. Missed last years draft by a few days
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He's everything I hate in a player.

Plenty of factors point to him being a disappointment.

The pros:
He's big, really big.
He has a shot, a good one.
He can skate.
He has soft hands in tight.
Drives the net.
Strong on the puck.

The cons:
He's dumb. Skates himself into defenders way too often, passes when it's not the time to do so.
He's passive, way too passive, and players that are passive usually don't get it, they stay like that all their life.
There's just way better in the draft than a lazyish winger with IQ problems.
He really doesn't use his teammates well at all.

There's no way he goes in the top 10, if he does, its going to be a mistake.
 
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He's everything I hate in a player.

Plenty of factors point to him being a disappointment.

The pros:
He's big, really big.
He has a shot, a good one.
He can skate.
He has soft hands in tight.
Drives the net.
Strong on the puck.

The cons:
He's dumb. Skates himself into defenders way too often, passes when it's not the time to do so.
He's passive, way too passive, and players that are passive usually don't get it, they stay like that all their life.
There's just way better in the draft than a lazyish winger with IQ problems.
He really doesn't use his teammates well at all.

There's no way he goes in the top 10, if he does, its going to be a mistake be a mistake.
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You just described a poor version of Anthony Mantha
 
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JeffreyLFC said:
You just described a poor version of Anthony Mantha
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He's a bit more active than Mantha, but they definetely share similar traits.

Mantha is a good player, Lavoie could be that too, (Lavoie is a better skater, imo.), but I don't see the value in picking this in the early first round.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Hughes, Kakko, Cozen, Dach, Turcotte, Byram, Broberg, Podk, Kaliyev, Suzuki, Cajkovic, Krebs, Guskov, York, Robertson, Boldy, Zegras, Grewe, Caufield are all more interesting to me.
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You are entitled to your opinion, but I think around 8 is when he starts becoming an option for teams. Guys his size with his skating and goal scoring ability aren’t exactly a dime a dozen.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Theyre not, but you're falling in the trap if you think thats why you draft a player.
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The guy is a rare talent. You just don’t see guys with his size, skills, and skating often. I also think he’d be a perfect fit for this team as a first line power sniper.
 
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Mrb1p said:
He's everything I hate in a player.

Plenty of factors point to him being a disappointment.

The pros:
He's big, really big.
He has a shot, a good one.
He can skate.
He has soft hands in tight.
Drives the net.
Strong on the puck.

The cons:
He's dumb. Skates himself into defenders way too often, passes when it's not the time to do so.
He's passive, way too passive, and players that are passive usually don't get it, they stay like that all their life.
There's just way better in the draft than a lazyish winger with IQ problems.
He really doesn't use his teammates well at all.

There's no way he goes in the top 10, if he does, its going to be a mistake.
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Interesting evaluation on him. I think he goes top 10 but I also think he is a 2 or 3 year development prospect though. Going to take a while for him to adjust to the NHL game with less time and space. I like him a lot but neither one of us can predict the future.
 
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Mrb1p said:
He's everything I hate in a player.

Plenty of factors point to him being a disappointment.

The pros:
He's big, really big.
He has a shot, a good one.
He can skate.
He has soft hands in tight.
Drives the net.
Strong on the puck.

The cons:
He's dumb. Skates himself into defenders way too often, passes when it's not the time to do so.
He's passive, way too passive, and players that are passive usually don't get it, they stay like that all their life.
There's just way better in the draft than a lazyish winger with IQ problems.
He really doesn't use his teammates well at all.

There's no way he goes in the top 10, if he does, its going to be a mistake.
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I thought that you were talking about Poehling.
 
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