Prospect Info: 2019-20 Prospects Thread (CHL, NCAA, Junior A, Europe)

[henchman21]

Caufield probably has the best shot/goal scoring instinct combo since Matthews/Laine. He's short, and doesn't skate the greatest, but he's elite at scoring goals. I don't see any reason why he can't be a better version of DeBrincat.

 

[AvsCOL]

How will he score 40? Who will be his sidekick feeding him? Caufield is a product of playing with incredibly talented players. Played with team USA last year which was loaded. Now playing with Turcotte and ample PP time at Wisconsin. Until he proves he can score on his own, then I'm not convinced.

Right now all he is on my books is a 2nd line PP specialist, until he proves to be something else. If exceeds that good on him, I'm still glad we didn't draft him.

Strongly disagree there.

 

[Patagonia]

Caufield probably has the best shot/goal scoring instinct combo since Matthews/Laine. He's short, and doesn't skate the greatest, but he's elite at scoring goals. I don't see any reason why he can't be a better version of DeBrincat.

Caulfield has a wicked shot and incredible hands, but size and average skating is a concern that dropped his ranking. Just don’t believe he will translate well in the bigger and faster NHL.

I wanted either Newhook or Krebs which fell perfectly to the AVs.

 

[Goulet17]

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[chet1926]

Caulfield has a wicked shot and incredible hands, but size and average skating is a concern that dropped his ranking. Just don’t believe he will translate well in the bigger and faster NHL.

I wanted either Newhook or Krebs which fell perfectly to the AVs.

Pretty my exact feelings on Caufield. When you are his size, you better have top end skating abilities, which he doesn't.

Hence why I think 2nd line PP specialist, cause on the PP doesn't matter if you skate well, need to get to the right spots and make quality shots, which he can do.

 

[Avs_19]

Thanks for continuing to post highlights. It's appreciated!

 

[Foppa2118]

Surprised they don't have the angled glass in that arena. You'd think that would be mandatory these days with junior players especially.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Newhook with his 3rd straight multi-point game with 1+1 so far tonight.


No live stream for the game unfortunately that I can find but at least on the score sheet it looks like he may be starting to learn the College hockey game and adapt. Faster than I expected if that's the case for sure.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Yeah I definitely didn’t expect 5 goals or 8 points in his first 10 games. Good for him.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Timmins with his 2nd goal of the season assisted by Rosen and Dries.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Stienburg not playing tonight for Cornell. Is he hurt?

 

[Foppa2118]

Timmins with his 2nd goal of the season assisted by Rosen and Dries.

Gotta be only a matter of time before Rosen or Timmins get called up.

 

[Avsboy]

Gotta be only a matter of time before Rosen or Timmins get called up.

Hoping its not because of injury but because Bednar realizes that Cole, Barberio, Cannaughton and even Graves are not NHL-quality.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

2-0 Eagles. Dries from Rosen again.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Newhook got another one tonight. Kid is starting to heat up.

 

[Balthazar]

Newhook got another one tonight. Kid is starting to heat up.

He's way more comfortable at center isn't he? Glad the wing experiment is over.

 

[Pokecheque]

Pretty my exact feelings on Caufield. When you are his size, you better have top end skating abilities, which he doesn't.

Neither does DeBrincat.

 

[cgf]

How will he score 40? Who will be his sidekick feeding him? Caufield is a product of playing with incredibly talented players. Played with team USA last year which was loaded. Now playing with Turcotte and ample PP time at Wisconsin. Until he proves he can score on his own, then I'm not convinced.

Right now all he is on my books is a 2nd line PP specialist, until he proves to be something else. If exceeds that good on him, I'm still glad we didn't draft him.

By putting the puck into the net 40 times because his shot & goal-instincts are extraordinary.

 

[cgf]

I watched the first two periods of that game last night and though Byram was pretty clearly the best player on the ice. (CGF’s boy Pod was quite noticeable too) which is always a good sign in a game with this much star power.

good to hear he contributed offensively to the win after I turned it off too.

He always does when he's playing against his peers* ;-)

*and doesn't have a bum knee/isn't burnt out

 

[chet1926]

By putting the puck into the net 40 times because his shot & goal-instincts are extraordinary.

When you are 5'5" or whatever he is and aren't a top end skater you typically don't even make the NHL.

Not saying he can't be a useful NHLer but I think other aspects of his game will hold him back from being an elite player (40 goals=elite level)at the NHL level. He is going to have to be paired with someone who does all the heavy lifting for him. His skill set is very one trick pony and that will be magnified at the NHL level.

 

[cgf]

When you are 5'5" or whatever he is and aren't a top end skater you typically don't even make the NHL.

Not saying he can't be a useful NHLer but I think other aspects of his game will hold him back from being an elite player (40 goals=elite level)at the NHL level. He is going to have to be paired with someone who does all the heavy lifting for him. His skill set is very one trick pony and that will be magnified at the NHL level.

True. You need to be really talented & smart to pull it off...which should tell us something about just how talented & crafty Caufield is to be so highly rated despite that limitation. Kinda like when we were telling you that Cale was just so gifted & smart, that his inability to ride a rollercoaster, didn't matter ;-)


It sounds like you're just underestimating the other parts of his game; as well as how special his shot/instincts are. He may be shorter than Napolean, but that hasn't stopped Debrincat from thriving in the NHL...and though their skillsets are not identical, the things that let d-cat thrive in the NHL are traits that Caufield has in spades.

Plus, even if he ends up being just a one-trick pony, do you know what we call one-trick ponies whose one trick is scoring 40 goals? Stars.

 

[chet1926]

True. You need to be really talented & smart to pull it off...which should tell us something about just how talented & crafty Caufield is to be so highly rated despite that limitation. Kinda like when we were telling you that Cale was just so gifted & smart, that his inability to ride a rollercoaster, didn't matter ;-)


It sounds like you're just underestimating the other parts of his game; as well as how special his shot/instincts are. He may be shorter than Napolean, but that hasn't stopped Debrincat from thriving in the NHL...and though their skillsets are not identical, the things that let d-cat thrive in the NHL are traits that Caufield has in spades.

Plus, even if he ends up being just a one-trick pony, do you know what we call one-trick ponies whose one trick is scoring 40 goals? Stars.

Debrincat is a much better skater than Caufield, and also has Kane, top 10 player on the world taking pressure of him and feeding quality chance after quality chance.

Who on Montreal's roster is going to do that for Caufield? Drouin? Domi? Kotkaniemi? There is big difference between playing with a top 10 player in the world and those guys.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Calling Caufield a one trick pony is just not an accurate statement at all.

I mean ya, he does have one trick that has him producing some of the best numbers of all time at his age... But that doesn't mean that's the only trick he has.

He's still a very good passer, has absolutely fantastic hands which and he's an incredibly smart hockey player, which is what allows him to have so much success.

If it wasn't for his skating being just average, he would have been a Top 5 pick last year and would be basically as close to a guaranteed future 40 goal scorer as you could get from an 18 year old. Mind you I still have tonnes of confidence that he'll be a 40 goal scorer anyway.



The NHL also isn't what it once was. You are seeing more and more smaller players in the league that are not only playing in the league but having all kind of success as well. Gaudreau, Point, DeBrincat, Keller, Gourde, hell even Rocco Grimaldi is starting to find some success after years of struggling to break into the league.

Caufield has more pure skill than every single one of those guys.

 

[cgf]

Debrincat is a much better skater than Caufield, and also has Kane, top 10 player on the world taking pressure of him and feeding quality chance after quality chance.

Who on Montreal's roster is going to do that for Caufield? Drouin? Domi? Kotkaniemi? There is big difference between playing with a top 10 player in the world and those guys.

I'm no expert on technique so can't comment on that aspect of their skating, but Debrincat doesn't move around the ice that much better than Caufield...we're not comparing Cole to Point here. Where I would say that one is much better than the other, is in their skill-level & shots, as Caufield is just on a higher level in both categories.


I guess I'm also higher on Kotka than you seem to be, because I think he'll grow into a perfectly capable 1c...though I'm not yet sold he'll max out higher than a 1b C on a cup favorite...which should be plenty of support for Caufield with Drouin/Domi on the other wing & Cole's superior skillset. Yes none of them are good as the rapist, but it's not like Debrincat would be garbage without him; as the kid's more than a mere passenger on that line...like Strome is...