2018 Free Agent and Trade Thread - News? Hello? Please give us news

[A1LeafNation]

Slow and steady my friends:

Hyman(2.25) Tavares(11) Marner(7)
Marleau(6.25) Matthews(10) Nylander(7)
Johnsson(2.1) Kadri(4.5) Kapanen(2.1)
Grundstrom(0.925) Jooris(1) Brown(2.1)
Leivo(1.3)

Rielly(5) Zaitsev(4.5)
Dermott(0.863) Ellis(6)
Borgman(1.3) Liljegren(0.895)
Rosen(1.3) Holl(0.675)

Andersen(5)
Pickard (1)

Kessel(1.2)

85.258 Million

 

[Stephen]

I’m not very good at trade value so I’ll ask you guys, how far off am I
Kapanen, Dermott and a 2019 2nd for Trouba
Would that be enough from the leafs or does it have to be Nylander/Marner to get him. Not sure I’d trade one of Nylander or Marner for him personally though.

While that trade would satisfy a depth chart kind of thing, it would really put a dent into the Leafs actual functional depth.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Marleau - AM - Nylander
Hyman/Johnsson - Jt - Marner
Johnsson/lievo/Hyman - Kadri - Kap/Brown
Lievo//grunstrom - Lindholm - kap/Brown
extras - Moore Engvall Jooris Bracco and Ennis I just see him being on the team . But Im pretty sure Grund, bracco and engvall will be left to season for another year unlesssome amazing progression or trades happen

Rielly - Hainsey/zats

Gardiner - Hainsey/ Zats

Dermott - Igor/holl/carrick

barring some sort of unreal trade or break out this is what I expect we will look like come October. who knows we have another 2 months before camps open so a lot can still happen.

we may have a couple ptos to start the season if we keep our contract limit down cap friendly has it at 47 but I think that's counting hortons .

maybe we pto Hamuis Nash and see if they will be a improvement on what we have and use the extra for lou special 3-4 guys out 1 guy in trade.. but for the most part I think what I listed will be pretty much how we start the season

Pretty sure mack and either sparks or pickard will be traded with other assets for controlled assets futures and signed and unsigned prospects​

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not that I expect it to ever be reality but would love something around Nylander+Gardiner(conditions if he walks or something) for Lindholm and Ritchie. Helps both teams.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Also next off-season (I know....)

Some potentially interesting defenseman available;

Stralman
Schmidt (want! And Dubas does too)
Myers
Karlsson (long shot)
Ellis (feel like we could ditch Zaitsev in this case)
McQuaid (good 3rd pairing guy if he took a pay cut on a 1-2 year term for some grit)
Chiarot (3rd pair-7th D)
Bortuzzo (see McQuaid)

Even by getting 2 of these guys, we could really stablize the defense.

Rielly-Stralman
Schmidt-Zaitsev
Dermott-Liljegren

 

[Budsfan]

I suspect this is what Nylander's next contract will be similar to.

 

[MyBudJT]

I suspect this is what Nylander's next contract will be similar to.

Agreed! If a young, 50pt dman eating up less Rfa years gets this, its hard for a 60pt winger to ask for more.

 

[Daisy Jane]

it's my birthday.
come on Dubas, give me something awesome.

 

[Kurisu]

As long as Nylander under 7, I'm cool with it.

 

[Willy Stylez]

Agreed! If a young, 50pt dman eating up less Rfa years gets this, its hard for a 60pt winger to ask for more.

For five years? Yeah maybe, more term then no.

 

[Kurisu]

I know looking to upgrade defence is important but we need to figure out who is the long term goalie for us. I'm not exactly sold on our goalie prospects. Do we keep Anderson after 3 years? I'm not sure if I want him back at a higher cap hit on a long term contract.

 

[TML1967]

Someone suggested a Grabner type deal earlier.
I.e. bunch of maybes who still have a year before they become 'non nhl' types for a solid guy.
My hope is we do something like this for a 28-30ish 2nd pair RHD.
Don't need to be legit top pair, just someone we can put with Reilly who plays a calm game I.e. Stralman from a few years ago.
Maybe some combination of Bracco, Timashov, Neilssen, Carrick, Gauthier.

 

[FlareKnight]

it's my birthday.
come on Dubas, give me something awesome.

Counting on you Dubas. And not just because I want to see some awesome Leaf news in general .

 

[Nithoniniel]

Someone suggested a Grabner type deal earlier.
I.e. bunch of maybes who still have a year before they become 'non nhl' types for a solid guy.
My hope is we do something like this for a 28-30ish 2nd pair RHD.
Don't need to be legit top pair, just someone we can put with Reilly who plays a calm game I.e. Stralman from a few years ago.
Maybe some combination of Bracco, Timashov, Neilssen, Carrick, Gauthier.

So many things to comment on here.

First, Grabner was available because he was essentially seen as a nothing asset at that point. Not as a solid guy.
A second pairing RHD will never be available for a bunch of maybes one year away from being non-assets. He'll be expensive.
Strålman from a few years ago was absolutely, without question a legit top pairing guy.
And Bracco and Timashov are not guys that are one year away from being non-assets either.

 

[Jmo89]

Marleau - AM - Nylander
Hyman/Johnsson - Jt - Marner
Johnsson/lievo/Hyman - Kadri - Kap/Brown
Lievo//grunstrom - Lindholm - kap/Brown
extras - Moore Engvall Jooris Bracco and Ennis I just see him being on the team . But Im pretty sure Grund, bracco and engvall will be left to season for another year unlesssome amazing progression or trades happen

Rielly - Hainsey/zats

Gardiner - Hainsey/ Zats

Dermott - Igor/holl/carrick

barring some sort of unreal trade or break out this is what I expect we will look like come October. who knows we have another 2 months before camps open so a lot can still happen.

we may have a couple ptos to start the season if we keep our contract limit down cap friendly has it at 47 but I think that's counting hortons .

maybe we pto Hamuis Nash and see if they will be a improvement on what we have and use the extra for lou special 3-4 guys out 1 guy in trade.. but for the most part I think what I listed will be pretty much how we start the season

Pretty sure mack and either sparks or pickard will be traded with other assets for controlled assets futures and signed and unsigned prospects​

Mack? Who is that?

 

[TML1967]

So many things to comment on here.

First, Grabner was available because he was essentially seen as a nothing asset at that point. Not as a solid guy.
A second pairing RHD will never be available for a bunch of maybes one year away from being non-assets. He'll be expensive.
Strålman from a few years ago was absolutely, without question a legit top pairing guy.
And Bracco and Timashov are not guys that are one year away from being non-assets either.

Completely agree. I meant more that before we did quantity for quality, but because I want a better return we are in a decent position because or 'quality' pieces are much higher quality than last time.

I look at a team like Florida with Pysyk who is still young enough at 26 who isn't flashy.
Or Demers in Arizona who has above average advanced numbers for a 2nd pairing guy who is cheap and mid aged.

I don't think they would cost a ton, but to teams thay both have some internal people knocking on the door for bigger opportunity.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Completely agree. I meant more that before we did quantity for quality, but because I want a better return we are in a decent position because or 'quality' pieces are much higher quality than last time.

I look at a team like Florida with Pysyk who is still young enough at 26 who isn't flashy.
Or Demers in Arizona who has above average advanced numbers for a 2nd pairing guy who is cheap and mid aged.

I don't think they would cost a ton, but to teams thay both have some internal people knocking on the door for bigger opportunity.

Right, then I'm with you. And yeah, I like those two guys as targets too.

 

[Amadeus]

Nylander deserves a tad less than Pastrnak.

 

[justafan22]

Friedman here says he's speculating (key word here) that teams like San Jose and Toronto who are all in next year might go for Panarin



They could extend him, but would 100% be saying goodbye to gardiner, and have to dump Marleau with no money coming back at the very least.

 

[Walshy7]

Friedman here says he's speculating (key word here) that teams like San Jose and Toronto who are all in next year might go for Panarin



They could extend him, but would 100% be saying goodbye to gardiner, and have to dump Marleau with no money coming back at the very least.

Panarin? no thanks, the cost to acquire him will be ludicrous. Probably starts with Nylander, he is trending into Panarin territory himself and is 4 years younger in 4 years time could well be better than panarin is now, AND will be a lot cheaper too on his 1st serious contract.

 

[Menzinger]

Not that I expect it to ever be reality but would love something around Nylander+Gardiner(conditions if he walks or something) for Lindholm and Ritchie. Helps both teams.

The ducks aren’t trading their 1D

 

[Mad hatter]

it's my birthday.
come on Dubas, give me something awesome.

Happy birthday

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Mack? Who is that?

our current back up

 

[Jmo89]

our current back up

Ah, duh. I'm tired today.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I suspect this is what Nylander's next contract will be similar to.

Money-wise, probably. Term-wise, we are getting a lot more out of Nylander. At least 2 more years.