Prospect Info: 2018-2019 Senators prospect watch part II

[BondraTime]

World Juniors star Drake Batherson to make NHL debut with Senators | CBC News

Avs fan here from Nova Scotia coming in peace .
Nice read up on Batherson , I know his father Norm.
Hope he plays well and sticks

Norms a great guy, played (practised) for him for a season

 

[Piestany88]

Norms a great guy, played (practised) for him for a season

Haha you are a younger man than me lol , One of my hockey buddies played with Norm on the Acadia championship team in 92-93

 

[Larionov]

On the subject of former prospects, Jonathan Dahlen is 2-6-8 In 15 games in Utica so far. He isn't exactly banging down the door to get to Vancouver.

 

[Micklebot]

On the subject of former prospects, Jonathan Dahlen is 2-6-8 In 15 games in Utica so far. He isn't exactly banging down the door to get to Vancouver.

I suppose, but that's not that bad for a first year pro. Pretty similar to Chlapik's first year or White's, better than Hoffman's.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

On the subject of former prospects, Jonathan Dahlen is 2-6-8 In 15 games in Utica so far. He isn't exactly banging down the door to get to Vancouver.

That’s actualllyyyyyyy pretty good.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

On the subject of former prospects, Jonathan Dahlen is 2-6-8 In 15 games in Utica so far. He isn't exactly banging down the door to get to Vancouver.

2 more assists tonight make that 10 pts

 

[God Says No]

Can you imagine Dahlen AND Francis Perron on this year's Belleville squad? Dang.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

On the subject of former prospects, Jonathan Dahlen is 2-6-8 In 15 games in Utica so far. He isn't exactly banging down the door to get to Vancouver.

That only looks kinda bad because expectations were way overblown here (probably a fear reaction to a "worst case" scenario). Dahlen was overrated but he is still a very good prospect who seems more and more likely to be a top 9 player with each passing season.

 

[MaxTheLimit]

Can you imagine Dahlen AND Francis Perron on this year's Belleville squad? Dang.

Perron now with 1 point in his past 5 games. He's cooled off after the hot start. That said, I still liked him as a prospect and don't think he was a nothing throw in on that trade.

 

[Tuna99]

That only looks kinda bad because expectations were way overblown here (probably a fear reaction to a "worst case" scenario). Dahlen was overrated but he is still a very good prospect who seems more and more likely to be a top 9 player with each passing season.

When we traded him the reviews were really mixed on if he'd even be an NHL player. Skill is there, some scots saw him as a top 6 player, others saw him as to soft for regular NHL duty.

 

[Tuna99]

Norms a great guy, played (practised) for him for a season

Tell Norm thanks for making the future Blue-Nosed-Alfie of the Senators (Afredsson / Batherson, both Right shot RW, both late bloomers, both great shots and hockey sense, both future mayors of Ottawa) we appreciate him and will treat his son like the the God he is.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

When we traded him the reviews were really mixed on if he'd even be an NHL player. Skill is there, some scots saw him as a top 6 player, others saw him as to soft for regular NHL duty.

mckenzies words were 1/3 thought he had surefire top 6 potential, another third though he was top 9 and another third thought too soft.. so 2/3s of scouts he spoke to thought AT LEAST top 9

 

[HSF]

On the subject of former prospects, Jonathan Dahlen is 2-6-8 In 15 games in Utica so far. He isn't exactly banging down the door to get to Vancouver.

future first liner doe or so people here say

 

[Cosmix]

Can you imagine Dahlen AND Francis Perron on this year's Belleville squad? Dang.

Just to play along . . . can any posters imagine Burrows on this year's Ottawa squad? Yuck!

 

[Micklebot]

future first liner doe or so people here say

People were comparing him in value to Chlapik who he's trending pretty similarly to in terms of projections. Nobody was saying he was a surefire 1st liner, they just felt he had more value than we got out of him. Not sure why anyone would complain about 10 pts in 15 games in his first full year in NA as a 20 year old. Kid is still a promising prospect.

 

[HSF]

People were comparing him in value to Chlapik who he's trending pretty similarly to in terms of projections. Nobody was saying he was a surefire 1st liner, they just felt he had more value than we got out of him. Not sure why anyone would complain about 10 pts in 15 games in his first full year in NA as a 20 year old. Kid is still a promising prospect.

there were for sure a good group of people who were saying he is a future top liner. Even more hype than CHalpik who is probably a 2nd/3rd line guy.

each their own

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Just to play along . . . can any posters imagine Burrows on this year's Ottawa squad? Yuck!

couldn't imagine him on last years either.

 

[Piestany88]

Atta boi

 

[Sting]

That only looks kinda bad because expectations were way overblown here (probably a fear reaction to a "worst case" scenario). Dahlen was overrated but he is still a very good prospect who seems more and more likely to be a top 9 player with each passing season.

Thing is, Dahlen probably needs to be in a top 6 role to succeed given his size/skill. I don't see an opportunity on this team with the players/prospects we have in the top 6 anytime soon.

I still hate the trade from a value perspective, but I really don't think we're going to look back on the trade and feel all that bad about missing out on Dahlen. I'd put him at or around Formenton in terms of prospect value...probably lower though.

 

[ChurchOfAlfie]

I don't remember what people were projecting Dahlen to be in terms of 1st/2nd/3rd liner. However, I do remember a bunch of people bringing up the fact that Dahlen had a better season in Sweden than Filip Forsberg did at the same age, and so it was totally reasonable to expect Dahlen to turn into a better player than Forsberg.

 

[Sleestak Nation]

Best example I could think of tbh. Pretty nuts that the Preds essentially have 20 or more years of solid goaltending.

Maybe Anaheim? Not elite goalies but all of them performed well while they were playing for the Ducks.

Giguerre
Hiller
Andersen
and now Gibson

I think Giguerre was drafted by the Hartford Whalers and then did most of his marinating in the Flames organization.

Sorry for the late replay on this, just catching up on my reading.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I don't remember what people were projecting Dahlen to be in terms of 1st/2nd/3rd liner. However, I do remember a bunch of people bringing up the fact that Dahlen had a better season in Sweden than Filip Forsberg did at the same age, and so it was totally reasonable to expect Dahlen to turn into a better player than Forsberg.

The comparisons to Forsberg are more made because of the Erat/Forsberg trade and how similar those deals are gonna look a couple years after the fact. Dahlen is well on his way to being a productive top 6 guy and Burrows is done and was done when we got him like Erat was.

 

[ChurchOfAlfie]

The comparisons to Forsberg are more made because of the Erat/Forsberg trade and how similar those deals are gonna look a couple years after the fact. Dahlen is well on his way to being a productive top 6 guy and Burrows is done and was done when we got him like Erat was.

Maybe now, but at the time I remember specifically people comparing production in their 18 (or 19?) year old seasons and extrapolating that to future NHL production. It was so stupid it burned itself permanently in my memory.

 

[starling]

Dahlen was carrying a line with Elias Pettersson, so yeah he was pretty damn good.

 

[Sting]

Dahlen was carrying a line with Elias Pettersson, so yeah he was pretty damn good.

Or being carried?