Prospect Info: 2018-2019 General Prospect Discussion Thread

[Dr Jan Itor]

Why would they be scouting players that they already selected?

 

[Olcoach]

Why would they be scouting players that they already selected?

It is actually common to send a scout in to put actual eyes on a player to see how they are developing, and to see where their head is at with the process and the environment. Think the KK situation except at a much lesser level.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

It is actually common to send a scout in to put actual eyes on a player to see how they are developing, and to see where their head is at with the process and the environment. Think the KK situation except at a much lesser level.

And I suppose that there are draft eligible players playing on all of the teams that they are on anyways. I bet it's more of an ancillary thing.

 

[Nsjohnson]

Dewar having a great season.

Any other guys looking like they have had a increase in production or looking better from their draft year? Any risers?

 

[Wabit]

Dewar having a great season.

Any other guys looking like they have had a increase in production or looking better from their draft year? Any risers?

This is actually his draft year+2. We picked him as an overager, he's one of those summer baby tweeners.

 

[Olcoach]

This is actually his draft year+2. We picked him as an overager, he's one of those summer baby tweeners.

You lost me a bit on this one. Do you use age or draft year when comparing a prospects development?

 

[Wabit]

You lost me a bit on this one. Do you use age or draft year when comparing a prospects development?

Draft year, meaning the first year he's eligible to be drafted. He wasn't drafted his first year eligible, and was picked in his 2nd time through the draft. That would make it his draft year +1 when he was drafted by MN.

 

[Mickey the mouse]

It is actually common to send a scout in to put actual eyes on a player to see how they are developing, and to see where their head is at with the process and the environment. Think the KK situation except at a much lesser level.

That’s usually head of player development that watches drafted players.

 

[Olcoach]

Agreed. The onsite leg work is handled by the remote scouts. Logistically impossible to have the head of player development traveling that much. At least this is how the organization that recruited me to scout worked. But that was back in the day.

 

[57special]

F JO stuck on one point in 35 GP
Bitten, after a very cold start in Iowa, is starting to play more and getting some helpers.

 

[neelynugs]

how would y'all rank the wild's top 10 prospects at the halfway mark?
biggest surprise? biggest riser? i assume filip johansson will rate as your biggest disappointment,
but anyone else who fits that description?

i really liked mcbain last june, but haven't really followed him this year.

 

[Wild11MN]

Dewar and Khovanov are maybe slight risers? There was a good amount of hype for McBain, but I haven't heard anything about him this year.

Kaprizov is obviously our top prospect until he comes over (or decides to stay). FJ is definitely the biggest disappointment so far, but he's young, that could change. Pretty thin at the top compared to most teams. Greenway has been really solid in the NHL.

This was our board's list before the season.
1. Kirill Kaprizov - 95.2% (40/42)
2. Jordan Greenway - 43.9% (18/41)
3. Luke Kunin - 86.1% (31/36)
4. Dmitri Sokolov - 35.4% (17/48)
5. Filip Johansson - 28.1% (9/32)
6. Nick Seeler - 34.3% (12/35)
7. Louis Belpedio - 25.7% (9/35)
8. Jack McBain - 23.5% (8/34)
9. Ivan Lodnia - 40.7% (11/27)
10. Alexander Khovanov - 41.2% (14/34)
11. Kaapo Kahkonen - 42.9% (12/28)
12. Simon Johansson - 65.2% (15/23)

 

[57special]

Seeler has graduated, and is not a prospect.

I'd say that Dewar and Shaw need to be on that list above McBain, and F Jo off it. KK probably needs to be higher.

 

[P10p]

Kahkonen definitely a riser.

 

[AKL]

Greenway and Kunin have also graduated, no? Both over 25 career games.

At this point I'd list my personal top 10 as:

Kaprizov
Khovanov
Sokolov
Belpedio
McBain
Kahkonen
Dewar
Lodnia
Mennell
S. Johansson

Khovanov, Kahkonen, Dewar, Mennell have all been pleasant surprises to varying degrees this season.

 

[57special]

Greenway and Kunin have also graduated, no? Both over 25 career games.

At this point I'd list my personal top 10 as:

Kaprizov
Khovanov
Sokolov
Belpedio
McBain
Kahkonen
Dewar
Lodnia
Mennell
S. Johansson

Khovanov, Kahkonen, Dewar, Mennell have all been pleasant surprises to varying degrees this season.

65 games is the rule for skaters, according to Elite Prospects(see pg.1), which is the one this thread tends to be based on.

I don't watch the AHL, so I have no idea how any of the prospects actually play. Soucy could be playing great for all I know, and Mennell a defensive nightmare.

 

[TaLoN]

65 games is the rule for skaters, according to Elite Prospects(see pg.1), which is the one this thread tends to be based on.

I don't watch the AHL, so I have no idea how any of the prospects actually play. Soucy could be playing great for all I know, and Mennell a defensive nightmare.

I actually believe the rule for hf used to be 45 games to graduate, and that's what these threads used to be based on.

Remember, hf used to be more than just a hockey forum.

 

[Wabit]

65 games is the rule for skaters, according to Elite Prospects(see pg.1), which is the one this thread tends to be based on.

I don't watch the AHL, so I have no idea how any of the prospects actually play. Soucy could be playing great for all I know, and Mennell a defensive nightmare.

Seeler is past 65 games now. I'd take Greenway off the list, he'll get to 65 games this year. Kunin might, but I think he (and JEE) will be heading back to Iowa once the All-Star break starts.

 

[TaLoN]

Seeler is past 65 games now. I'd take Greenway off the list, he'll get to 65 games this year. Kunin might, but I think he (and JEE) will be heading back to Iowa once the All-Star break starts.

Sooner for Ek if Fehr indeed comes back sometime in the next 3 games as Bruce has suggested may happen.

 

[AKL]

And the NHL rule for rookies is essentially 25, so 65 seems insanely long.

 

[Wabit]

Sooner for Ek if Fehr indeed comes back sometime in the next 3 games as Bruce has suggested may happen.

They are on a Vegas/Col road trip for the next 2 games (Mon/Wed). The 3rd game is 12 days from now, after the ASG and mandated 4 days off.

Did Fehr even travel with the team?

 

[TaLoN]

 

[57special]

I actually believe the rule for hf used to be 45 games to graduate, and that's what these threads used to be based on.

Remember, hf used to be more than just a hockey forum.

And the NHL rule for rookies is essentially 25, so 65 seems insanely long.

The info is on the first post of this thread. Seeler is not only omitted due to GP, but age.

 

[57special]

Bitten continuing to get points, Sokolov seems to be running into a rookie wall, or slump.

 

[Saga of the Elk]

how would y'all rank the wild's top 10 prospects at the halfway mark?
biggest surprise? biggest riser? i assume filip johansson will rate as your biggest disappointment,
but anyone else who fits that description?

i really liked mcbain last june, but haven't really followed him this year.

I rank guys by pro potential/upside.

1. Kaprizov
2. Kahkonen
3. Shaw
4. Sokolov
5. Dewar
6. Filip Johansson (low-scoring league, but he's the team's top-pairing defenseman, and he's still 18)
7. Belpedio (don't think he skates well enough to be a true middle-pairing NHLer)
8. Khovanov
9. McBain
10. Simon Johansson

Lodnia, Boudrias, Menell..

middling group - even if you included Kunin and Greenway.