Discussion in 'Vancouver Canucks' started by Zombotron, Nov 21, 2018.
Canucks' prospects getting destroyed by AHL plugs.
There, that's better.
Any updates on Dahlen’s injury?
MacEwan should get rewarded with a call-up sometime this year. Hoping we trade away 2-3 roster players at the deadline and reward some prospects to end the season and get experience (and paper them so they can play AHL playoffs)
If MacEwan can't bring more to the table than Tim Schallar or Markus Granlund, then I'd be shocked. Canucks are desperate for some 'heavy', down-low forechecking pressure. He deserves a look in a third-fourth line role.
It has not been posted on this site (at least not to my recollection), but Binghamton's Ryan Schmelzer received a 2-game suspension from the AHL for a hit to the head. It was the result of his hit to the head of Comets' Guillaume Brisebois in last Saturady's Utica victory in Bingahmton (12/8). He had received a 2-minute penalty for a check to the head.
In the same game veteran Eric Tangradi (439 AHL GP/154 NHL GP) was suspended one game for what was deemed a boarding incident against Ashton Sautner. That one was reported here.
Both were blatant fouls, but the Tangradi hit was over the top. Sautner has multiple facial injuries (hearing broken orbital bones and cheekbone as well as a a broken elbow). 1 game for all that?
He tweeted an apology for any injuries Sautner received because he doesn't try to hurt people, but believed it to be a good hockey hit because he says his shoulders were down.
Oh, by the way just for those out of the know, Tangradi is the same player who did in Dahlen last night with another good hockey hit. No one challenged Tangradi over either incident.
The goal by MacEwen seen here is exactly what I have been harping about all season. He went to open space at full speed and received a pass in full flight enabling him to take it to the net and score. He scored off the pass Wednesday night against Providence as well.
This is what we should be seeing from Zack all the time. He expends way too much effort every game trying to do everything by himself. He is not a slick, puck moving forward who can take the puck from his own blue line or center ice, beat 2 or 3 defenders, and get to the net for a scoring chance. How do I know I'm right? By the multitude of times he has failed miserably at it game after game for 2 seasons.
What you see on this goal is the talent this kid possesses when he gives up the puck and uses his size and speed to get himself open for a pass and you see the rest. Now, if he can only find a way to stop turning it over in his own end.
Tangradi needs to be on the receiving end of some of those good hockey hits. They should sign some one like Tom Sestito just for him and Springfields Bobby Farnham. Bobby Farnham fought Jake Virtanen in his rookie year, a real tough guy 7 years older than the rookie and he's still doing crap like that down there. There's no way Tangradi can accidentally cause that many injury's with a clean hit. Elbow or more likely a butt end, couldn't tell from the replay.
Marlies address the toughness issue:
It was a sneaky fly by elbow, no shoulder was involved.
And the comets do nothing...
What happened to Archie?...he's usually the guy to step up when some goon takes liberties with the Comets skilled players. Unfortunately that part of his game appears to gone AWOL....one of the reasons he's no longer in VanCity.
What the hell? I just mentioned Sestito, i think Friedman's trolling us. He must be fried, man.
Haha NOT true Jyriki, pretty sure he was being sarcastic, their buds
2 things seem to have contributed to Archi's reluctance to just fight at the drop of a hat. One was the 2016-17 season in which he led the team in scoring. Then last year 2017-18 his jaw was broken. He has since those 2 career event become a lot more careful in picking his spots to fight. It doesn't mean he doesn't usually wade into frays and defuse the issue. He is usually successful in doing such. He has fought, but usually in response to an opponent so he doesn't get the extra 2. It's as if he has come to realize that he is more valuable to the team on the ice than in the box.
I don't take issue with his current style, but did find it difficult to understand when Sautner went down, he was more concerned with aiding Ashton than taking on Ashton's assailant. Must be a Hell of a burden to know you are the only player on a team that is considered to be the guy who is responsible for protecting the other 17 every night.
Arseneau would be the normal attack dog, but he is not actually good at it and his broken hand the last time he did it reveals a little lack of brain power. You won't hurt anyone or cause them to question their actions by repeatedly punching their helmet.
There are no other Comets that are threats to succeed without their gloves on.
Actually Sautner himself was a guy who contributed a smidgen to team toughness.
But alas, those days are probably over now...
@Bad Goalie did you catch today's news out of Marlieville posted on the previous page
A smidgen is a very small amount.
Sifers will also contribute a smidgen.
MacEwen has fought, but was not the aggressor. Did you see the play last night when the action was going up the ice and he was flattened behind the play, rose to his knees and was crosschecked again knocking his helmet off. It was a blatant attack sending him a message after he had flattened Hammond just inside the Comets blue line. His response was to appeal to the trailing ref who called nothing.
I have a feeling after 2 player suspensions in a single game resulting from two separate issues as well as 2 10 minute misconducts for abuse of officials at other times during the game (the altar boy Tangradi got one of them with 1:24 left in the game) along with an 8-4 disadvantage in penalties called that the Devils management had something to say to the league. Result was last night the Devils were just as scummy as ever but a whole lot of **** was ignored by the officials and the Comets were the winners in penalties actually called 4-3, 3 in a row for holding including setting up a lengthy 5 0n 3 that saw the Devils tie the game.
No, I was watching online of course and that happened behind the play. Roberts just mentioned that MacEwen had had his helmet knocked off. I did notice Mac skidaddled off the ice without his lid though.
You mean that the Marlies have signed Sestito out of retirement from his home in neighboring Rome, NY? Yup, I saw it.
They felt they needed some toughness. Rome is 17 miles from Utica straight down the 4-lane highway between Utica and Rome, NY-49 E .
Interestingly, I just looked him up last Saturday after the Binghamton game. He did put up 15 PTs in 37 GP with 99 PIM last season with the AHL Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins so he can actually play the game at this level. The downside is he is real lazy.
Yeah, when another poster posted the news in another thread here I looked up Rome's proximity to Utica as it happens.
Of course having a local guy as team tough guy would never work right. The fans would hate that...
Still, it's a smidgen more than most of the Comets bring to the table in that area of the game.
Just got through last night’s game.
Weird game in that you’d have expected it to be ultra-physical after what happened a week ago ... and just wasn’t. Until Tangradi injured Dahlen ... and then still. Appreciate that they stayed focused, made a good comeback and won, but the optics of having a guy injure two of your better players on cheap/borderline plays with zero response aren’t great.
- MacEwen was outstanding, especially in the first two periods. Had his feet moving and was flying, and was the best player on the ice. And kept things more simple and direct, which he needs to do. Goal was just a big-league play with too much size and speed for defenders at this level. At mid-point of the game had 5 of the team’s 8 shots. Plus flattened a Devil with a huge hit, which was basically the only response to Tangradi. You still want to see this more consistently, but the way this player is improving its hard not to see him as an NHLer. Only a matter of time before he gets his first callup.
- Dahlen has one ES shift I liked before he got hurt where he showed hustle and harassed Devil defenders on the forecheck, and was unlike the normal floaty uninvolved perimeter play we normally see. Then got a concussion. For a guy whose biggest issue already is that he plays a timid perimeter game, not good to see him hurt on a rare foray into the corners.
- Gaunce was very good. And looks *fast*. Made a huge effort on SH goal and the guy he beat to the net so score was Michael McLeod, a NJ prospect taken in the first round because he can fly. Skating and pivoting much smoother than 2-3 years ago.
- Archibald played another strong game but would have liked to see more of a physical response from him.
- Jasek is producing well but really not all that impressive. Have said this a few times, but seems to make 1 good play/game and blend into the scenery otherwise.
- Lind was a bit better in that at least wasn’t a turnover machine. Played a simpler 4th line game but still slow as hell and weak on his skates to boot.
- Cam Darcy isn’t a prospect but is a really nice, versatile utility glue guy for this team. Chewed through a lot of work at both ends in this one and scored a beauty goal.
- Brisebois scored a nice goal and played the same positionally sound, conservative game he always does with the same frustratingly terrible execution on breakouts and zone exits.
- Blujus was back and even banged up is the best defender on the team by a wide margin.
- Saucerman wasn’t quite as good as his debut and made some janky outlet passes into feet, but still played pretty well and was positionally sound.
- Demko didn’t have to be spectacular but was solid again.
Team is playing well and has won 5 in a row at home. Presence of Demko and Blujus makes this a completely different team defensively than the one in October.
He did this a lot in juniors too.
MacEwen a scratch today in Utica - did he get injured?
Dahlen out as well after that Tangradi hit, which sucks.
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