Marlander93
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LOL. ...
Biggs, Ashton, Finn and so many others. Bad feet can not be corrected.
Pretty ignorant post.
LOL. ...
Biggs, Ashton, Finn and so many others. Bad feet can not be corrected.
LOL. ...
Biggs, Ashton, Finn and so many others. Bad feet can not be corrected.
Didn't tavares have bad feet?
Why, then, can footwork in every other sport be developed and improved?.. I'll wait.
I think It depends on the player and what their skating issue is.
Ie Tavares was a below average skater pre draft, after a lot of work he's now an average skater.
Some players are beyond saving/correcting though.
Still not sure who the goon is supposed to be? Is it Middleton and his career high of 66 PIMS? Or career total of 8 fights in 130 OHL games.
Or maybe because he is 6'06" and 235, he'll never be able to keep up with NHL skating??
Exactly.....lots of skaters who are considered a weak skater can be improved a lot as some it is a matter of getting stronger, and others are a body position issues. Remember JVR saying that Barb help him with his skating? Same as Mathews stating that Barb pointed out that his left arm does not come fully across...
I know that Barb has pinpointed the shoulder movement issue with Matthews, but I think the better example of a guy whose skating can get better is Bracco. Good technique but lacking power.
I know that Barb has pinpointed the shoulder movement issue with Matthews, but I think the better example of a guy whose skating can get better is Bracco. Good technique but lacking power.
Biggs yes, Ashton no and I mentioned Finn who most definitively would be a NHL D man if it were not for his bad feet.
You can work on improving strength in your legs and change your stride somewhat but bad feet is something that does not go away with more practice...I read so often on here that Barb can fix them....no she can not, if so the player would have been better a long time ago. Players are constantly exposed to skating instructors, most take private lessons or the teams they play on have them. Small adjustments in body posture can improve stride length and speed a little, and that is it.
There's a huge difference between guys like Schenn/Phaneuf to guys mentioned earlier like Biggs/Ashton. Schenn has played over 500 career games, Phaneuf will play over 1000. If guys like Biggs/Ashton could play they would be playing it's not just skating holding them back. Skating is obviously important but if you have the talent package it can be worked on. Do you believe Biggs and Ashton if they just skated better would be full time NHL players? I don't.
Wow. Finally someone spelled it out. I've thought this exact thing for awhile. Improvements happen but drastic improvements rarely, if ever, do.
Most kids from Atom onward are skating in specialized elite skating instruction schools outside their team practices with some very capable teachers.
Chris Ricci, Kelly Reed, Rick Ferroni, Darryl Belfry have been tutoring AAA teams and individual players in Niagara/Hamilton area for years. I find it incredible some players play 3 - 4 years in the CHL and are in desperate need of a Barb Underhill skating miracle as they enter the AHL.
Man...I actually watched the Burke firing conference...the way he was talking about how he filled the cupboards, there are pieces going forward for a GM, we have lots of NHL guys in the system, credit to our scouting staff etc...damn.
The problem with Biggs was all mental. He was mentally two steps behind the play all the time. If you could have combined Ryan Rupert smarts and drive with Biggs physical tools that would have been a hell of a player.I actually have a hard time figuring out why Biggs is so ineffective and terrible as a pro hockey player. The few times I've actually seen him was live and he looked like a good momentum/speed player. One time he scored on a breakaway or penalty shot, and he looked like a convincing power forward doing it, then I go home and check and he's got like 2 goals on the year.
Guys like Schenn just have really clunky feet. For such a strong guy he seems to just shuffle along, kind of bad with his stops and starts and all of his cross overs and such look extremely rudimentary.
It's crazy to look at - in his time with the Leafs.
Looking at rounds 1 and 2; benefit of doubt for later rounds (but bonus for gems found)
Kadri = NHLer
Ryan = Career ECHLer; 0 NHL games
Blacker = Career AHLer; 1 NHL games
Ross = Career overseas; 0 NHL games
Biggs = Career ECHLer; 0 NHL games
Percy = Fringe NHL/Career AHLer; 12 NHL games
Rielly = NHLer
Finn = Fringe AHLer/Career ECHLer; 0 NHL games
*Most GP of non-1st/2nd rounder is Granberg with 35 games......Granberg!
Funny how Burke and co. did the exact opposite of "Filling the cupboards" We basically only drafted NHLers while in 'can't miss' positions; traded high end 1st rounds and flopped later in rounds.
Exactly....it is a strength issue and a few tweaks in body positioning that will help to extend his stride to take advantage of improved leg strength.
The problem with Biggs was all mental. He was mentally two steps behind the play all the time. If you could have combined Ryan Rupert smarts and drive with Biggs physical tools that would have been a hell of a player.